Location of city villa or single-family house on 500 m2 plot - rectangular

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Tolentino

2020-03-13 12:17:07
  • #1


That’s something completely different. Discussing the number of rooms is factual and neutral to me.

So maybe a somewhat larger room for the two small children and a somewhat smaller one for the older.

When the little ones are at an age where they want their own, either the older one has already moved out or if not, the teenagers can decide whether they want to put up a drywall partition...
That probably relaxes the planning upstairs, but on the ground floor, we still have the corridor that I’m now trying to address with an entrance change.

Sorry, but I already showed that in the sketch above. It has to become more square because otherwise it won’t fit within the building boundaries. It’s also clear because the diagonal, which is always longer than the longest side, hits the shorter side of the building window.

I find that with your idea I have much more area under the GFL-right where I certainly won’t be sitting on a deck chair if the neighbor drives by with his car at any time or his family walks by. -->not really usable and lost.



I modeled the parking with the help of a scaled model on the site plan. That’s indeed not great, but doable with a “normal car.” With a Touran it just works, possibly with some maneuvering.
If you reverse in, it also works with a van without maneuvering.

There is also space behind the carport for all the children’s stuff. That doesn’t per se reduce the parking space area.

West sun – yes, I’m working on that. The kitchen has to be different.



Yes, a long reverse drive is always necessary either when parking in or out.
Standard turning radius is 10-12 m.
I’m currently trying to get that somehow into the site plan...
 

Tolentino

2020-03-13 12:31:03
  • #2
If you enter "turning circle" on Wikipedia, it is explained.
Accordingly, I have added a curved wall with the turning circle into the site plan; this should be correct and shows that it works.


But it is really not super convenient.
Maybe I'll just make the carport, which is planned for later anyway, bigger; it is allowed to be right up to the boundary. Until then, I wouldn't have a big problem.

For your information why no parking space in front: I really am not allowed to put any outbuilding or parking space there. Therefore, I would have had to mark the 5m strip in front in dark red.

Best regards

Tolentino
 

kaho674

2020-03-13 13:01:11
  • #3
What to get? Sorry for ignoring your plan now, in my opinion it's rather a disaster anyway. Such a division would inevitably always result in 2 storage rooms. How important is this office? Could it possibly serve as a 3rd children's room if needed? I see the dressing room as a significant buffer given your different sleeping rhythms. But if necessary, that has to go too. That is helpful. The parking space must go up to the neighbor's fence - that's a fact, I would say. I had practically bitten off another corner from the house with the bay windows - that also makes it easier. But such things cost.
 

Tolentino

2020-03-13 14:18:10
  • #4


I think teenagers can decide for themselves whether they prefer to live in a storage room or share a room with the other person. It is proven in psychology that a self-chosen situation – even if objectively worse – is perceived as more tolerable than a forced one.


Unfortunately, the office is important; I have about 40-50% home office. So unless something changes fundamentally with my job, it can’t be repurposed. And that would also rather become a storage room.


At the moment it’s not even born; I only put it in the profile because maybe someone would come up with a brilliant solution for everything. I can handle the absence of a dressing room more easily in everyday life by simply laying out my clothes for the next morning the evening before. My wife, who comes to bed at night and undresses, is not the problem; I sleep like a log.



Yes, I think all the way to the front and the parking space up to the fence at the back is the only possibility. Otherwise, the house would have to go further into the southwest and the parking space placed parallel to the house from the top of the plan. But that makes the garden even smaller.

Best regards

Tolentino
 

ypg

2020-03-13 15:43:36
  • #5

Jo

Even the Smart needs 9.1 meters, so halved 4.5 meters

That doesn't matter at all. You have your house. I don’t like your bay window houses either

Then there will be no garden left eventually.

No.
I prepared something: the Scanhaus Marlow Marlow with 3 children’s rooms upstairs, office and utility room... I’m not saying it’s the optimal house, but it illustrates that you have to go more in length rather than width if you want to accommodate more rooms, even if they are small.


That’s clear too

So what? A plot must offer more than just a lounge chair area. That really is the least of it. A plot must also function as a yard, which would be at least desirable.

Exactly

Have fun maneuvering daily!

Carport is out: the posts make maneuvering really crappy for you.
With the angled position you don’t stick with the windows to the hedge...
You get space and several functioning plot areas.
I’ll stop now too, don’t want to persuade anyone of something that’s obvious.
You’ll manage it already
 

kaho674

2020-03-13 16:00:17
  • #6
Disgrace!
 

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