Location of city villa or single-family house on 500 m2 plot - rectangular

  • Erstellt am 2020-01-17 18:03:26

Tolentino

2020-01-18 12:36:36
  • #1


Well, the statements are from the homebuilder, saying that building is allowed there according to §34 of the Building Code. And I have also heard this explanation for the area from other realtors and homebuilders. Sometimes the 5m distance to the street can also be just 3m if there are enough examples in the neighborhood where this was built and approved that way.

That there is no finished development plan exactly for the parcel can be viewed online in ALKIS.

So I have now entered all the worst-case requirements here and want to go through ideas with this. If it turns out afterward that I may be closer in front or put something that is not connected to the ground in the 5m zone, then that is only good.





So, everything I have mapped would be my property, but I have to grant the GFL right for the rear property (which adjoins on the right side of the plan and is not shown here). The entire plot is actually a 940 m² plot which is to be divided. How exactly it will be divided is still relatively freely determinable. But I think the broker’s suggestion is already sensible. Why should I orient the GFL strip to the south if I know for sure that someone regularly walks along there?
And assigning the GWL strip to the neighbor, I had already considered, but then I would also have to give up 3 meters from that part as rightly pointed out. So not that sensible either, even if losing 60 sqm is annoying.


So it’s a very quiet street, only built with single-family houses and city villas, without a sidewalk. Whether anyone takes a walk there, well...
But okay, I understood and am not opposed either. I just initially let myself be persuaded by the broker.



Yes, true, I somehow thought a shelter would be possible, but it is unlikely if you’re not even allowed to set up a gravel parking spot there.



Yes, true, 3m becomes tight there. Also speaks more for the option of going in front if you possibly want 2 parking spaces on the plot. One could work in front anyway, as I have to leave 5m space anyway (or park them one behind the other there).

I don’t think anyone is fixated on the square shape here. We are all at roughly 11x8m in recent floor plans.
 

Tolentino

2020-01-18 12:54:31
  • #2


Not as you have drawn it, since the entitled property adjoins on the right side. So either place it all the way at the front, then I also have 5m at the back, which should be enough for a longer parking space with a shelter for everything that shouldn't get wet.
 

ypg

2020-01-18 13:11:02
  • #3
I’ve been thinking again about the ownership structure... those 3 meters...
That will be paved... by whom? And who takes care of maintenance? And who has to shovel snow?
I don’t see that as unproblematic if you become the owners.
I would inquire about that.
has already expressed his concerns.
I rather see a shared property with ideal division, so that the driveway can be used by both. Or something like that.
Otherwise, in terms of size and orientation, a completely normal plot.
I would simply make a list of pros and cons and compare it with the DH.
Compare what is actually possible, also financially. Here a bigger house is possible, but financially it isn’t.
How big was the DH’s land? Also consider garden area and carport..., developer versus general contractor..., purchase incidental costs versus construction incidental costs etc.
 

11ant

2020-01-18 13:14:16
  • #4
which clearly rules out a round Trullo

Also a nice piece of info for post #37. Maybe - especially since was already invited - better suggestions would come up if you showed the surrounding parcels :-(
 

Tolentino

2020-01-18 13:22:08
  • #5


Yes, that's true. That seems to be common in Berlin right now, as many plots are being divided again, so I have so far just accepted it without questioning it. I quite like the idea of quasi community ownership and ideal division. Otherwise, the strip might have to be really divided in two so that each takes care of their half. The paving is also an issue. I would simply have laid a few stone slabs. Or those concrete grids where grass can grow through the middle. Or gravel.

On the other hand: the prices are not much different. The plot is more expensive, but the house is probably cheaper. And with the developer, I have to pay real estate transfer tax on everything as well as a broker’s commission only on the land portion. The plot here is completely without commission and transfer tax only on the plot. That already makes a good 30,000 euros, which I can then invest in the kitchen and outdoor facilities... This is actually not a decision between the semi-detached house and this plot. If I can get this plot, I will take it and not the semi-detached house. The semi-detached house is more like
 

kaho674

2020-01-18 13:35:22
  • #6
Exactly my question! Who pays for it and from whose floor space ratio do the square meters then get deducted?
 

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