Floor plan Bungalow 172 m2 in Brandenburg south of Berlin

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Sorrow87

2022-01-17 16:29:00
  • #1




So, once again thanks to everyone here for your answers. We have carefully read your ideas, critiques, suggestions, and improvements and then tried to implement some of them in a second draft. The title should now include 143 sqm instead of 172 sqm. We have actually managed to cut almost 30 sqm from the draft. We are satisfied.

We would also like your honest opinion again. The utility room is now narrow but also very long. The cinema protrudes as an angle. I assume this will also be discussed here since an angle is definitely more expensive. There is now even a guest bathroom. But it is very very small. :D The entrance area is not separated. Maybe not everyone likes that. We actually find it quite nice to enter the large room directly.

In the draft, some white dummies are included. These are the wardrobes in the dressing room (60 cm deep), the built-in cupboard for shoes, jackets, coat in the entrance area (60 cm deep), and in the guest room desk (70 cm deep), pull-out sofa bed for guests (can be up to 2.0 m), and shelf area 60 cm (deep).

We are now planning with a gable roof. The carport should now have enough space for 2 cars. In this draft

Additionally, an overview with the neighboring plot, showing how this one is built.

Thanks in advance for your feedback



 

ypg

2022-01-17 18:09:18
  • #2

That's why I asked the OP what arguments he has. Maybe the kitchen table would be better placed in the east?

Regarding the new plan: I find the approach... _approach_ much better.

Concerning the bathroom locations, I would like to point to this thread:
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/Grundriss-nach-erstem-planungsgespraech-140m2-1-5-geschossig.42222/
 

pagoni2020

2022-01-17 18:19:54
  • #3

Hmm... You’re not supposed to orient your whole house around that, that sounds like a rather rigid viewpoint.

Ouch, it seems you haven’t built and lived in many houses yet, from what I read so far it sounds pretty fixed-minded to me especially when I see how "someone first has to convince me of that..." – Nope, nobody has to. Fortunately, everyone does what they want. But why a x-storied house should be an “exit strategy” (what did we call that back then without these “cool” words?) and then it would be a “half-baked house”... ufffff.
I am generally skeptical of so-called recommendations... "Friends have theirs like that, too." Firstly, among builders, there is just as much lying and exaggerating as when fishing, sex, or hunting, plus it’s a fundamental difference whether I visit sometimes or live there forever and with whom and under what behaviours etc. Today I have a controlled residential ventilation system, before I did not, and both times I felt fine, still I like the thing (so far). There is no right/wrong there.
I generally refuse to accept “this is good” or “this is bad” about such topics without considering all aspects. Additionally, us older people are once again experiencing that we sometimes behave completely differently than we thought before. We now have different favourite spots, drink coffee elsewhere etc., new rooms – new life; you can’t plan all that, at least I can’t, but I can create possibilities for it beforehand.

I see it differently. If as a reader I think that an OP might be stuck in their view, you should say it clearly. It’s not about mocking this, but clear criticism is indispensable in such a forum, though as I already mentioned, always only before the build; afterwards I rather find it malicious.
Especially from the experience of what others have gone through I can learn, no matter the age, without having to give up my important priorities. In my house you will find many such hints from the forum that I initially saw completely differently, yet it became a house we like that way (with all its quirks, just like the builders themselves).
Not having a “need” to avoid a second toilet, rather it can become one to have a second one. That the OP is currently a gentleman as he says sounds gallant, but there are also some gentlemen who at an advanced age wet their pants while waiting (gentlemen over 50 should better wear dark pants or diapers :eek:).
Persistence and stubbornness are often very close, and everyone should check that for their own interest. In the end nobody here cares whether OP builds 1 or 5 WCs; malice should not be attributed to the critics in this.

Most people “don’t want” to sell their house, I wouldn’t want to sell mine either :(, but people have to because of divorce, illness or other unplanned changes. I also wouldn’t build to sell it better one day, I absolutely agree with you on that, but foreseeable changes in one’s own sphere I want to be able to cushion appropriately. A really great TV room, I would build that in your place!

Watch “Sterben für Anfänger” (“Death for Beginners”), that’s at least partly thematized with the grandpa......

And lived in caves and allegedly pulled their wives to work by the hair. In that respect a garden toilet would also drastically reduce costs; by the way, I myself used to have no running water, a shared children’s room without heating in the attic and a thousand other things...... the pastor fortunately only beat us. So if I, over 60, referred to these great old times, maybe okay but you are about 30... If so, be consistent and build without all the modern stuff, because back then we didn’t even have TV (we lucky ones), you want a TV arena, which I think is super cool if implemented individually. Then the comparison with earlier times doesn’t quite fit anymore.
Showering more than once a week is overrated anyway, using the washing machine as well, and they didn’t brush their teeth so unnecessarily meticulously back then either.

Look, that’s great. Not because you changed something for others, but because you thought outcome-open. Don’t unnecessarily fix yourself on roof shape and other things, make sure you find exactly your floor plan that also includes the sensible things mentioned here. Then there’s still enough room for stylish individuality, which I really like, given all the mass-produced nowadays.

That’s enough.

We have it the same, the entrance belongs to the living space, we like that.
If I see it correctly, you have about 70 sqm with the kitchen for the so-called open space; I would prefer an open or semi-open kitchen so you are really right in the middle of the beautiful, large room.
I believe a planner or someone here can still loosen up the boxing-in of bathroom/WC/bedrooms a bit. Somehow I would also prefer the utility room much more at the front and perhaps, I would even take the much-discussed extra WC en-suite with the guest room, to have one less door/WC access from the dining room.
 

Würfel*

2022-01-17 19:43:25
  • #4
I would probably solve it quite differently:

Place the bungalow as far to the right as possible so that you get some distance from the neighbor in the southwest and he doesn’t steal your sun. One carport to the right next to the house. If another parking space is needed, place it in front of (planunters) the carport or as an uncovered parking space to the left of the house. Then orient the living rooms towards the garden and catch the southeast sun from above / behind, for example with a staggered shed roof with windows facing southeast or other roof windows.

Alternatively, the typical L-shaped bungalow, where you move even further away from the southwest neighbor with the upper part of the (mirrored) L.

Why? For me personally, the view is very important. It belongs to the feeling of well-being to look into the beautifully landscaped garden, especially when there are no neighbors opposite!

A terrace with 3 meters depth is borderline, better 3.5 m, otherwise you cannot walk behind the chairs if you have a table with 1 meter depth. For that reason, I wouldn’t make it so long. You’re not going to put 3 tables there, are you??
 

Sorrow87

2022-01-17 22:31:52
  • #5


We also share the argument from .



Thank you very much. What do you mean by "approach... _approach_" :D So probably still a lot of room for improvement?

Thanks for the hint about the bathroom locations and the pointer to the thread. Apart from the fact that this thread read quite poorly, it helps tremendously. Not only concerning the WC location... :D

Here, of course, the consideration would be to extend the wall from the dressing room straight down to the utility room to visibly separate the entrance area from the WCs. Would that make sense? Not that the southwest area then feels like a tube. What would be a minimum width for the living area at a length of 13 meters? I quite like the room arrangement in the northeast, but somehow I feel you could still get more out of it. But somehow I can't solve the Tetris level with extra stars :D
 

Sorrow87

2022-01-17 22:43:07
  • #6


Thanks for the detailed contribution.

We also really like the open entrance. The kitchen as it is now is still not optimal. To me, it’s also a bit narrow with the fridge at the bottom. I would just like to have the windows here to let in the south-southwest sun.

This compartmentalization is also still the biggest sticking point. Here we are still waiting for the stroke of genius.
 

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