Realistic cost estimate: Single-family house with unfavorable development location

  • Erstellt am 2023-01-20 10:50:39

Nice-Nofret

2023-05-20 12:06:06
  • #1
... and besides, it would be advantageous to move the door to the utility room about 70cm from the bottom of the plan; this significantly improves the furnishing of the kitchen.
 

11ant

2023-05-20 14:20:43
  • #2

I think it is typically an unverified tracing of the original creation by the draftsman, relying on the structural engineer, who, however, does not correct such aspects...

... I will never understand why one does a 3D proof if the head-bumping points don’t stand out.
 

11ant

2023-05-20 14:41:15
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For example, through a passage from the utility room. Such things and the strange coat niche on the stairs are actually the best demonstrations 2. for the value of an architect's plan instead of a draftsman's and 1. the nonsense of 3D when used without understanding. Five risers correspond to more than 90 cm of height reduction, simple mental arithmetic is actually sufficient here (elementary school math word problem: Little Fritz climbs the stairs in a house with a clear room height of two and a half meters – how tall may Little Fritz become without hitting his head if the floor ceiling protrudes over more than five steps?).
 

ypg

2023-05-20 20:55:29
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… I once looked up the so-called study from a university in Colorado on YouTube… it’s always very suspicious when you search for a keyword like “aerosols” here and immediately relevant videos pop up that somehow sound like aluminum + hat… in the end, though, these videos don’t actually tell you anything about aluminum + hat, they just want to tell you (in times of Corona) that “dangers from viruses” are invisible in public, but the videos also describe the solution, namely using the toilet lid.

So I would just leave the church in the village, rather deal with long pipelines ;) … no, joke aside: water vapor when opening the dishwasher also poses a danger, but there is no lid for that. Getting up in the bathtub under the sloping roof is also dangerous, obviously even without lasers…. There is a heating program etc. for legionella.

So: all good. Plan your bathroom as you imagine it… but plan the stairs according to minimum standards and with the corresponding stairwell, then at least it’s safe, and you can get furniture upstairs.
If a layperson starts planning a house, the top rule is: always plan more than necessary. The extra centimeters will be taken away by the professional planning through masonry, plaster, and DIN standards anyway. And everything wants to fit that you draw so cramped.
By the way, I asked about the furnishing because I can hardly imagine the all-in-one room. The dimensions for kitchen and living are a bit tight, even though the room is large. Also, there is no cloakroom. Enough has been said about the doodads around the stairs.
But first of all, fitting the title of this thread, I would swap the office and utility room first.
 

K a t j a

2023-05-21 19:23:44
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As the saying goes: if you really don't like the result, it's better to say nothing?
 

schmeissrein

2023-05-21 20:44:37
  • #6
Hello hello!

I’ll try not to leave out any points now, as there was (thankfully) a lot of feedback :) Regarding the bathroom and toilet seat: of course the toilet seat thing was not decisive for the planning :D It was more about why we liked our planning better than the version proposed by . And that was only alongside other things (like the shower overlapping the bathtub there or the expectation of a wet floor in the middle of the room).


The floor height is 2.75m in the shell construction. The guest WC has an oversized window, that’s true, but that is due to the wish for a symmetrical exterior look :) See pictures.


As I said, the toilet seat was no requirement, just one of the reasons why we weren’t so convinced by your proposal. I don’t find our preferences all that unusual, but of course every family is different (see the shower discussion)... There are no sections yet. I’ll show a detail from the professional plan, I wouldn’t want to upload the whole thing without consultation, since there are different needs regarding copyrights and so on.

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I think that’s due to my tool, which can only display the stairs as they are. Take a look at the professional floor plan, to me it looks like it should be okay?


It’s in the professional planning, but we don’t want towel holders there :D


We used the 3D planning to check if our furniture fits into the place. And to try out a jungle wallpaper and other silly fiddlings :D And of course for the simple “being able to imagine it.” Whether your head fits under the stairs should hopefully be checked by people who know about such things (e.g. the structural engineer who approves it).


You’re of course right about the “dangers” of everyday life – luckily there were a few microbiology courses at university and we feel confident classifying it well, and that without any tin foil hat :D The furniture is being delivered today! The open plan area is actually not huge, but we think we can fit everything in there and even better than in the current apartment. Swapping the utility room with the office isn’t very sensible, because the utility room now faces the neighbors (apartment buildings) and can be without windows. The office (which should be nicely bright) offers a view of the garden. Besides, a carport will be built on the utility room side so you can bring groceries from the car via the utility room (which also has a pantry shelf) into the kitchen.


Please feel free to say anything if you want, we can only learn from it :)
 

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