Realistic cost estimate: Single-family house with unfavorable development location

You want something from us here, not us from you.

Yes, help with construction, but definitely not with family planning :D

It may sound strange to you. But if you want to properly plan a house so that all family members can live in it reasonably, you should know whether it will definitely stay with one child or not. Otherwise, you end up with a lazy compromise like the one you have conjured up with your 10.5m² children's rooms.

And if you don't realize that after 3 months, then no one can help you.

It is completely normal to plan for an additional children's room. That is better than ending up with one room too few later. The two do not want a fourth children's room, but a second one. The chances for a second child are not bad at all, and a small room always gets used. By the way, one of our children also has "only" 12.6 m2, and that is completely sufficient. The oldest child has a room of 15.7 m2, and I find that quite luxurious. If we had not planned so large in a new build, but it was like that in the old building. Regarding the floor plan itself, I can say nothing or rather do not want to, the floor plans are always discussed way too harshly here in the forum^^.

My father grew up in the 50s with 7 people in 100m². You will always find a standard that makes your own situation seem luxurious.

You can build it however you want, right? But when I go to a forum and ask for advice... because I don't have enough gravel for what I want to build and therefore have to optimize. Then I can't say "Ugh you idiot, I want it this way!".

Yeah? Then do it.

Of course you can build a 10m² dressing room and plan the children's rooms with 12m² raw area. So with a sloping roof effectively 10.5m². And say "In Africa, children don’t even have a room." But I just find that inappropriate. Because that is simply too small by today’s standards.

If I go to a car dealer and say "Please advise me." And he asks "How many people will be in the car?" And I say "80% of the time 3, but in 2 years it could be 4." What should he then recommend? A car with 3 seats and an emergency seat?

Thank you for this perspective. Until now, I haven't thought our project was as crazy as it's being treated here :D


Sorry, but what is all this whining actually supposed to be about? I didn't force anyone here to help me. I explained the ideas behind our planning and asked for tips on how it could be better. Instead, there were pretty much only lists of how bad everything is, without any constructive suggestions on how to improve it. And I have to say, the talk about children in Africa strikes me as somewhat rude. You don't know us, but you can probably assume that, like other parents, we want the best for our child, and it surely won't suffer if it has 20 square meters available overall, even if they are separated by a wall. Your car comparison is flawed in that you can always somehow make use of an extra room. If you want to stick with the car dealer analogy, then I’m more the type who goes there and asks for a van with the note that we probably won’t need the extra seat for sure, but just in case you take a few school friends along or are happy that one more suitcase fits. Instead of badmouthing the van extensively, one could suggest a different car as a good salesperson.

I think this "approach" is exactly what Winniefred means. I appreciate every helpful hint, but instructions about our family planning or assumptions about the value of my children feel intrusive on your part, no matter if "I want something from you." Besides, there is far more often shock about the sometimes pretty rude tone here, so one can also ask oneself whether that might be somewhat justified somewhere.