Realistic cost estimate: Single-family house with unfavorable development location

Swapping the utility room (also functioning as a pantry) and the downstairs WC would mean taking away the kitchen’s access to the supplies, which is why we discarded that idea. I don’t feel like running through the house three times during cooking with my faulty memory to get this or that ingredient. Post 20 doesn’t have a gable at the top, so it can’t really be used as a reference or I don’t see what you mean, sorry. Knee wall is 80cm and will surely be marked in the planner’s design, my tool unfortunately struggles with that. Same with the cross section.

I think that is an effect of the popular approach to plan the upper floor/attic after the ground floor...

I think that makes sense, too: downstairs there are many things that can’t be easily “subordinated” like a bed or a wardrobe: a kitchen, the technology in the utility room etc. set many conditions, the furniture upstairs can be “fitted/bought” accordingly if necessary.

Regardless of the rest of the design and its feasibility: the small niche in the upstairs bathroom literally SCREAMS for a shower, doesn’t it?
Or is there too much of a slope?
If you placed the shower there, you’d have the entire remaining room free to arrange everything as you like.

Unfortunately no space because of the slope :/


Yeah, the bathroom doesn’t make me happy yet either. Knee wall 80cm. The interior walls are 12, I thought 11.5 would be pretty standard, wouldn’t it?


See, it’s nice when we partially agree :D We actually haven’t talked about the roof pitch yet. In the screenshot it was provisionally 40°.

I’m curious what our planner makes out of our “amateur wish list,” after all that’s what it is, and maybe she’ll have a smart idea for the bathroom...

these and those ingredients

…belong in the kitchen cupboard and in the refrigerator. Storage supplies belong in the pantry, and it is unlikely that the trips will replace your fitness routine. The utility room will not be in the west wing 40 meters away… I bet you will visit the toilet more often than fetch ingredients from the said room.

Looking forward to seeing what our draftswoman makes out of our "amateur wish list",

Tracing, what else? The customer gets what they want.

I think that makes sense too: below there are many things that are not so easily "subordinated" like a bed or a wardrobe: a kitchen, the technology in the utility room, etc. dictate a lot, the furniture upstairs can be "adjusted/bought" if necessary. [...] Yep, the bathroom doesn’t make me happy yet either. Knee wall 80cm.

A upper floor is more densely populated with furniture and partitions, and an attic floor even more so. In the bathroom you can see yourselves that it is the residents who would have to be adjusted to fit (Size Zero to 34). I don’t give the advice about multi-level floor planning for no reason, but based on more than 40 years of planning experience.

The interior walls are 12, I thought 11.5 was pretty much standard, no?

What would the exterior walls be then, castle walls, if these Japanese walls are supposed to represent normal eleven-fives? It is advisable to plan interior walls generally with two decimeters thickness; and in the attic floor they will often be lightweight walls, there is also appropriate reading material on my site about that.

A rough estimate also gives me 158 sqm. So it’s close to your 156. 3000 x 156 = 468k just for the house. Too much. I don’t quite understand why you don’t get any feedback on the costs from the GU. At least a rough idea. Is there not one yet?

What’s wrong with your eyesight? There IS a shower (on the back side of the washbasin)!

You can’t be serious?

only suggested integrating the shower into the niche instead of the bathtub. Which, as I said, doesn’t work.

By the way, I would turn the bathtub. Facing the slant like that is unbearable. Just like the bathroom itself.

Building a house where the bathroom is a nuisance is not something I can recommend. What I can recommend to you – because I am currently building such a house myself – is to create a written list of your requirements for a house and give it to an architect. Studying architecture is not for nothing. They have spent years learning how to piece together floor plans. They also know about the legal requirements and think of numerous things that would never occur to you as a layperson.