Selling new construction after receiving funding / Wohnriester - possible?

Wow, something is coming again after such a long time (-:
I haven't been around here for a while and just recently found out that you are building something new… yeah, crazy…
Where can I find the thread where I can read about how you got a new plot and what you are doing differently this time when building? Neighbors can be simply annoying.

Yes, for us the trigger was only secondary the neighbor. Due to a change in job, we got the opportunity to move to another federal state, closer to my family. Getting rid of the disturbing neighbor is just a positive side effect. :)

I assume you see it exactly that way – but this here: “… I won’t let that be forbidden to me.” sounds a bit “late adolescent,” to quote . This attitude is wrong if you disturb others with music. And music is in no way comparable to children’s noise. Especially regarding voluntary and on/off switches.

Anyone who truly views frequent music listening as essential quality of life must also provide adequate soundproofing themselves, whatever it takes. That’s what good manners say.

That’s the point I somehow don’t understand either. What’s wrong with buying a set of waterproof Bluetooth earbuds for 40€? Those would give him better sound quality and give us our peace.
I now manage by sometimes putting on noise cancelling headphones without playing anything. Then unfortunately I don’t hear the birds and leaves anymore either. To be honest, I mostly don’t even go outside when he has the radio on.

Depends. On Sundays and at certain times quiet and room volume applies. And as the name says, room volume means you shouldn’t hear anything outside the room.
Why should the person who is disturbed provide protection and not the person who is disturbing? And maybe even have to stay inside the house? That’s already a strange attitude.

What’s annoying about it is that I can also simply hear it inside the house with closed windows. The bass and drum elements echo inside here, in the living room and bathroom. On a Sunday like today, I can not only not use my garden, but also not my bathtub.

It’s not about “now and then” or “only when guests are here on some weekends.”
I consider that generally practiced and accepted.
It’s about whether you regularly or even permanently listen to music in the garden that neighbors inevitably have to hear.
It’s not about legal permission, but whether you do it if you have manners. The clear answer is NO.

Here, quite clearly, the music listener is a disturber who also intentionally turns on his disturbance (which distinguishes it from children).

We have already talked here, he just turns it on again and again without consideration, although he knows it is perceived as disturbing. The thoughtlessness behind it really annoys me even more. Especially since, for example, we had agreed back then that he would refrain from it on Sundays, but he still doesn’t stick to this. Today that thing ran for many hours.

I believe in Kati’s neighbor’s case it even happened that the music was playing in the garden while the neighbor was not walking, sitting or standing in the garden – not even lying down... And then my fun and understanding stops as well.

Yes, that has happened. Although that is rather rare.
Well, it will be over soon. I am also sensitive about such things. Being able to perceive it inside the house already annoys me, so I am not entirely blameless in my “being special.” In Snowy’s video, I did the test at the end and got “yes” on 8/10 questions. I was uncertain on 2. Maybe I am “highly sensitive,” accordingly the background noise might not bother other people at all.

Yes, that has happened before. However, it's rather rare. Well, it will be over soon. I am sensitive to such things as well. Being able to hear it inside the house already annoys me; I am not completely innocent in my "being special." At the end of the video by Snowy, I took the test and answered "yes" to 8 out of 10 questions. I was unsure about 2. Maybe I am "highly sensitive," so the background might not even bother other people. [/QUOTE]

We finally moved into the house two weeks ago, and I have already thought of you and your neighbors a few times because now we FINALLY have peace and no more stomping neighbors driving us crazy, and we can finally decide for ourselves when we want it to be loud in the house and when we just want to read a book or lie quietly on the couch. You realize how much this burdens you when you are finally freed from it. Despite the new kitchen and lots of space, peace feels like our much greater luxury right now, and I am sure you will not shed a tear over your current house and will not regret the move to your home and hopefully quiet place. To the poster who was startled by how "close" some people see music in the garden: I fear that if you are someone who listens to a lot of music, you will never really understand how horrible it is for people who themselves want to listen to music only very rarely and whose nerves are quickly overstimulated by it. Of course, an evening with friends and a beer after work with background music and a playlist is nicer when it’s not every weekend; I think hardly anyone says anything and just "goes inside" if they want peace, but when it’s every second day for hours in the garden at work and you still have to hear it inside… phew… that would really get to me too. Imagine it somewhat like when two gossiping ladies stand at your fence for hours gossiping about a third person because it brings them joy… but you want to read a book and you couldn’t care less… eventually, you just can’t ignore it anymore and get extremely irritated. And yes, the idea that "in Poland maybe people are more used to noise" might be true; my husband had a Polish roommate for a long time who used to scream into the phone at first and eventually said he had learned that in Germany you whisper because otherwise everyone looks at you weirdly :)

I believe in the case of Kati's neighbor, it even happened that the music was playing in the garden while the neighbor was not walking, sitting, or standing in the garden – not even lying down... And that’s where my patience and understanding end.

Kati's case is different. The music did not bother the man; with her, the music already affected her psyche. She herself said that normally it might not be that bad. It’s not all dependent on the sender, but also on the receiver.

Kati's case is different. The music did not bother the man, but for her the music already affected her psyche. She herself said that normally it probably wouldn't be that bad. It doesn't all depend on the sender, but also on the receiver.

Be specific: Do you think Kati's neighbor is behaving appropriately? The argument "it only bothers one person" cannot be accepted. If the neighbors were deaf-mute, you also can't say, if it doesn't bother here, I do it like that everywhere. The disturbance was pointed out. It wouldn't even be necessary to give up the music, Kati mentioned the solution above. In the end, the upbringing of about 98% of people says: music that others MUST hear is not played regularly. Period! Not even on one's own property. The other 2% like to argue where all the wrong-way drivers come from. Kati's neighbor got lucky, others who feel disturbed are made of different stuff. Who knows how the new homeowners will act? Some pseudo-adults need to be re-educated with slightly rougher methods.

We are going in circles. You talk about times when it is not allowed. I talk about times when it is allowed. And why should I

Kati's case is different. The music didn’t bother the man, but for her the music already affected her psyche. She herself said that normally it wouldn’t be that bad. It doesn’t all depend on the sender, but also on the receiver.

Now you are reversing cause and effect. Of course it depends on the sender. If he didn’t turn on the music, Kathi would be fine. It’s quite simple. If something is prohibited and bothers someone, you have to refrain from it. Period! And if it’s different in another country, you have the option to go there. There is a reason why it is the way it is in Germany; the majority wants it that way. I would have taken other measures a long time ago with such a neighbor if conversation didn’t work. Limiting my life in the long term and risking my health for a neighbor is out of the question.

Kati's case is different. The music didn't bother the man; for her, the music already affected her psyche. She herself said that it probably wouldn't be so bad under normal circumstances. It's not all about the sender, but also about the receiver.

That can't be serious. I'll put it this way: there is a reason why classical music was or is played continuously at the Hamburg train station site. Honestly, I find it surprising that Kati is portrayed as particularly sensitive. As far as I know, it simply wasn't heard that much on the other properties. Continuous music/noise annoys many people, myself included :) And I am certainly not hypersensitive.