Very first floor plan draft of the ground floor

  • Erstellt am 2017-05-24 16:24:58

MIA_SAN_MIA__

2017-06-02 06:54:11
  • #1


It’s not the first heating system we get from him and not the first roof...

For my grandfather, this will be the new residential building in which he is directly involved, and as a neighbor, he will spend half the day on the construction site anyway... I am quite aware that I cannot correctly assess everything myself.

5,000+ for the plan I could definitely accept, but 30,000€ is definitely too much.
 

11ant

2017-06-02 16:03:56
  • #2
The architect earns his fee only from a tiny fraction of what the client sees in the form of drawings. And even what you pay for individual service phases is negotiable.

Deriving views and sections from your self-designed and here collectively deburred floor plan and transferring everything into CAD on a stick so that the architect can base the approval planning on it, that’s also done by a draftsman; and the hammer for the piggy bank doesn’t have to be that heavy for that yet.

From the approval planning onwards, the architect becomes much more indispensable; and: even if grandpa always carries his army revolver on the construction site, I firmly believe in the usefulness of an architect during construction management. Usefulness also in the sense of "worth their money."

Incidentally – but not intended as an incitement to take advantage – I regularly hear of architects who prefer to do their studied job below HOAI rates rather than flipping burgers. The other extreme – billing as much as possible and working lazily – may exist, but it is not the rule. Rarer than voluntarily correct craftsmen, I would say.
 

MIA_SAN_MIA__

2017-06-02 16:57:22
  • #3
You can't tell me that an architect is financially worthwhile. Where is he supposed to get the 30k from? You might have significantly less effort and overlook one or the other small detail, but overall I just can't imagine it.
 

11ant

2017-06-02 17:00:43
  • #4
I think 30k is too high for a single-family house. It would have to be on a polygonal plot with one side on rock and the other on swamp
 

MIA_SAN_MIA__

2017-06-02 17:11:00
  • #5
I just asked someone today -> 28k. All other examples on the net also fall within this range
 

RobsonMKK

2017-06-03 09:39:22
  • #6
Just go to a HOAI calculator, it shows you exactly what each service phase costs. With >30k you are almost already at service phases 1-8.
 

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