On which of these floor plans can we continue to build?

I can’t really get behind the point system with the criteria from #218, by the way.

I think you shouldn’t either. To be honest, I’m very unsure whether he meant this suggestion to the OP as empathy or as a parody.

Forms a knot in the head and is unable to untangle this knot by themselves, even though it is so simple.

Well, I have to defend the OP there. From the outside it is always easier to bring structure into it. We don't have the coordination with the partner, price/performance considerations, etc. I never said it was simple.

whether it was meant as empathy or as a parody

I rather think it was an allusion to the professional background; every programmer should have come into contact with these business administration aspects at some point.

Well, I have to defend the OP here. It's always easier to bring structure from the outside. We don't have the coordination with the partner, price/performance considerations, etc. I never said it was easy.

The difficult part is to recognize at all that one path or another is more of a dead end because it's too narrow, too small, too little, too open, too closed, and so on. But this is also pointed out here by the users. The OP then recognizes it himself. Figuratively speaking: you should continue to walk on this path to make progress. If the OP then positions himself back at the start to take the same path again or to choose a completely different one, this is the wrong approach here. That may work for many, for most, but not when, due to various specifications (we know them by heart by now) and the path having been walked so often that you know the last intersection is enough to keep going. One has to walk oneself, that is and remains my motto. We have arrived here at "Groundhog Day"... it is a time that is somehow stolen from you. 37 of these 39 pages are not needed.

You don’t have to build closed because of heating. You cannot compare houses built according to the Energy Saving Ordinance with older houses. Your stairwell will never be as cold unheated as it used to be.

Is that really so?
I’m also thinking about my noise-sensitive wife here.
She said today that if the floor plan requires an open transition from the hallway to the living room, then that just has to be part of the overall concept.
But I also know that she hears every neighbor coughing.

Do we already know him? Is he from you or from the BT?

What is the latest status from the architect and what do you like or not like?

Unfortunately, we only received this new floor plan. The mirrored floor plan from the first post is still to come. The architect also wanted to try swapping the kitchen and TV corner there.

This one has 16 steps! OK, you get the option to remove a step either at the start or the end.
Ground floor in 2 different versions. In the first the WC is somewhat small and somehow I cannot find a place for the wardrobe (built-in closet). In the second version the wardrobe seems a bit too narrow to me. The storage room upstairs is probably a bit too narrow.

You try to squeeze everything into the south and you get these statements.

Where do we say that we want everything to be in the south?
I say a kitchen in the entrance area (north) would also have certain advantages. Probably the kitchen is best placed in the south. The way to the dining area and terrace is shorter there. Plus, you can look into the greenery.
Where my study is located is somewhat irrelevant to me. And even if some combine home office with working on the terrace, that’s not interesting for me. I appreciate my 24-inch screen (probably 2 screens at home as in the office), keyboard, mouse, and desk. I am glad that my employer allows us to work from home and that my supervisor trusts me enough to do such a large part of my work from home.
And yes, the study is an indirect (organized) storage room. I need two sideboards for private file folders, that’s it. The closet easily fits 12 large Ikea Samla 65-liter boxes. We don’t even have that many in the basement for the complete decoration etc.
Therefore, from time to time the question arises whether we need a separate storage room. When we look at our basement, we only need space for suitcases, a fan, and a Christmas tree. In theory, all that could also fit in a room under the stairs.

Single-family house without a basement with something around 130-140 sqm on the respective plot. In the garden a shed for junk and either a garage or a carport, whatever fits better with the floor plan. On the ground floor you’d like a cozy living corner, preferably "closed off"/hidden. The kitchen should be able to be separated from the living room. Dining area should be where there is space but sufficient for about 6 people. An office at least 8 sqm, no matter where. The WC should have no shower. The utility room should of course be included.

Light must be there, space must be there, x meters length of the kitchen, storage space for x, y and z, at least 2 x 3 meters closet space, TV chill-out lounge and dining area for 6. 2 children’s rooms, office, bathroom etc... all that has priority 10. Period.

Almost well summarized.

Single-family house without basement with 140-150 sqm. A shed/extension in the garden or at the edge, one carport is enough.
On the ground floor there should be a living area (distance to the TV less than 5 meters). The kitchen (at least 4.2 linear meters (that’s what we have at present including a 110 cm base cabinet for supplies) plus oven and fridge) can be open or closed; a view to the garden and/or dining area would be desirable. Dining where there is space but sufficient for about 6 people. An office with approx. 8 sqm, no matter where. The WC should have no shower. A utility room should of course also be there in which laundry can be dried. The hallway should have space for a wardrobe (built-in closet). If the floor plan allows it, the living area should be separated from the hallway by a staircase.
It would be nice if somewhere in the living area or hallway or corridor there is space for a 110 cm and/or a 230 cm cabinet. The smaller cabinet must be accommodated somewhere; we could do without the larger one.
Upstairs the children’s rooms should face south and be equal in size (about 14-15 sqm). The bedroom should not be above the utility room. A storage room (shelf for 1.5-2 x 0.6 meters) or alternatively a built-in closet in the hallway would be desirable. The hallway should get daylight (perhaps a gallery or a frosted glass door in the storage room is enough?). The bathroom must have space for a shower, bathtub, one washbasin, WC, and 1-2 highboards.

Now the main point. We want to use our garden with a terrace and plenty of lawn area, whereby a strip of lawn about 8x8 is needed so that we can set up the inflatable pool in summer. In general, the terrace/garden should be easily accessible and as far as the floor plan allows, visible from the house.

The garden should have a terrace for 6 people, the rest should be lawn area. On the lawn there will be a double swing and in summer a pool 4-4.5 meters in diameter. The garden should be visible from the house.

If that doesn’t help, the additional effort will be charged.

That is a good question.
We have neither signed a contract with the BT nor the architect, nor have we ever talked about such costs.

You also have to be able to filter and weigh... exactly... set priorities

If the OP then repositions to the start to go the same way again or to take a completely different one, this is the wrong approach here.

Yes, and we have been saying for weeks that the building should be 10x9 meters, but they try to get us to go a different way.

Well, I have to defend the OP there. It is always easier to bring structure in from the outside.

True enough. Sometimes it is better to get a second opinion.

Ever heard of a Blower Door Test? It’s an airtightness test. New buildings with controlled residential ventilation must have a value of max 1.5, while old buildings often have 3-6 or worse. Then you only get drafts if a door or window is open.

If your wife is extremely sensitive to noise, I would separate the hallway and pay attention to really good impact sound insulation. The door is useless if you feel like an elephant herd is running through the rooms upstairs.

I would choose option 2 if you can manage with the living and dining area. Personally, I would miss closet space.

The upper floor
In the bathroom, I miss the second sink and the storage room is really very narrow.
But there’s no space for a closet in the bathroom.
The hallway is large compared to the other rooms.

Don’t know if Kaho has an idea. Maybe the study upstairs after all?

....In the garden, there should be a terrace for 6 people, the rest should be lawn area. On the lawn there will be a double swing and in summer a 4-4.5 meter diameter pool. The garden should be visible from the house....

Why do you repeat that? You should have realized by now that we know what you want? *Clap* We are not stupid, and what you wish for is what almost everyone wishes for. These are basic principles, you don’t actually need to repeat them over and over again, nor copy them. Reading this becomes exhausting here, the users are leaving.

Yes, and we have been saying for weeks that the building body should be 10x9 meters, but they are trying to make us take another route.

You are confusing something here. Your 9 x 10 is your decision. Period. However, that is not the smartest decision. And, if I recall the first 10 pages here correctly, it was only about explanations why you want nothing except these 9 x 10, or the content of the previous discussion in the green. You weren’t the one here in the forum saying: stop, we want these 9 x 10, but I attributed that to you here. But whatever. It’s just blah blah now, nothing defined is coming from you.

I mean: I do see possibilities in the design, but why are you missing the wardrobe? Do you not talk and define the wishes for yourselves? If a wardrobe is wanted, then I send the criticism to the architect. Sender, receiver. Preferably with precise words in German. Same goes for the storage room. Why is it so narrow again?

I believe you don’t want to pin yourself down with the property and house and therefore don’t get moving. Also, I would have already fixed and signed all costs in the contract. The wall shifts in the 9 x 10 do not cause any price jumps. Everything you want is fixed anyway. The price at BT already includes profit margin, and it doesn’t matter whether the bathroom gets 9 or 10 sqm. The price for your house has been fixed for 3 months, believe me.