On which of these floor plans can we continue to build?

So, we are at post 55 and much revolves around the past in another forum.

The fewest answers addressed the actual questions. So far, I have received feedback from , , , and .

Unfortunately, I presented the floor plans somewhat awkwardly. All 4 refer to the 1st floor plan. But this means the architect's, i.e., the Signus with the TV area behind the stairs, or the self-drawn one with the square living/dining room? I understood and to prefer the Signus.

With every one. Or did you want to build no garage in any variant?

The garage is not a must, but we need a way to store garden tools and bicycles, etc., and especially to access the bikes so that you don’t have to push them through the whole garden.

It’s just that all arguments bounce off the OP. Then that’s how it is. After nearly 200 posts and many alternatives, the OP still wanted to install their straight staircase at 8.5 meters depth.

But not possible at 8.5 meters house depth without making serious compromises!

also that he insists on a straight staircase.

But here we are talking about a 9 m deep floor plan!
And I am not saying it has to be a straight staircase either.
OK, apparently a quarter-turn staircase with the exit somehow still counts as a straight staircase, but it is not a must. In the architect’s last draft, they stepped down one step at the exit. This makes the staircase about 25–30 cm shorter but also wider.

I can name you a third forum, maybe they talk for you there.

That’s not what it’s about at all.
But if someone doesn’t want to contribute objectively to the topic, then they don’t have to clutter this thread with stuff. The thread in the other forum is past; here we deal with the present and maybe also the future.

On the other hand, pointing out advantages and disadvantages as well as alternatives regarding things that are not “fixed” is sensible and very helpful. It would be sensible to take this constructive approach in the comments.

Asking for opinions is usually a sign that the OP questions themselves, actively deals with other opinions and options. But that does not necessarily mean abandoning one’s own opinion and submitting to opponents’ dictates. Thinking for oneself is still sensible. Deciding for oneself too.

By the way, I find both your and kaho’s statements helpful and thoughtful: You actively engage with the questions and bring in your own opinions, experiences, and options — exactly what is needed here and helps the OP perhaps find better solutions.

That’s exactly what this is about *thumbs up*.

Including the land, it is hard to judge.

How much the land is worth is difficult to say.
The standard land value can only be taken as a basis to a limited extent… nothing new has been built there for many years.
Ultimately, the price also includes things like the access road and development. Furthermore, the price already includes electric blinds, some tiling work, and the paving of the terrace, driveway, and entrance.

No one said that either. How do you come up with that nonsense?

Unfortunately, I can’t follow you again… men and women think differently.

Unfortunately, I can't follow you again ... men and women think differently .

What's not to understand? It's not brain surgery. The terrace will go south one way or another. Never...

between our house wall and the neighbor's garage

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This offer for 450 grand - for how many square meters of floor area is that intended? Exactly 9x10? So you could also do, for example, 11.25 x 8?

The terrace will come to the south one way or another. Never...

With the idea from it would look something like this.
And then a part of the corner terrace is between the garage of house 9 and the own house. And the garage of house 10 could theoretically still be moved further. In addition, the corner is not very deep if a carport or garage is supposed to be in front of it. The ground floor window on the west side would then have to be in the area of the west terrace. A window under a carport only helps to a limited extent, right?

With a 10x9 m house, the green area behind the terrace would be deeper than with an 8x11.25 m house. Unfortunately, the plot is not very deep with about 23.8 m.

This offer for 450 grand – for how many square meters of floor area is that intended? Exactly the 9x10? So you could also do 11.25 x 8, for example?

That’s how I always understood it. The price referred to the floor area.

I meant the one from the architect.

Yours with the almost square living-dining room is extremely difficult to furnish.

I would prefer [Geräte/Abstellraum + Carport]. If the bikes go into the garage, it stays open all day. Kids don’t open and close it.

I consider all this terrace nonsense to be complete bullshit. Where you want to put your terrace is entirely up to you. Nobody is forcing you to make a corner terrace. And the extra meter in the garden doesn't bring you much there. But inside the house, the gain could be huge.

Here is an example with the 8m width and 5m garage. There's plenty of space for bicycles and other stuff muddy stuff. The house can let in the western sun, and of course the terrace goes to the south.
I'll skip the windows in the sketch.