On which of these floor plans can we continue to build?

I think it's good to pick out 10 or more floor plans and evaluate them for yourself.

That was the situation described above.

Evaluate them for yourself..., then you go on the offensive with that insight and develop further.
With you, the architect develops and at the same time insights are gathered in the forum, to then throw 10 more designs on the market, all of which somehow need to be changed: whether it’s the size 10 x 9 or, for example, the kids’ room size doesn’t fit. Then at some point the statement appears that you actually want a closed kitchen or something else.
I mean, it’s been going on since 3.10 and at least you’ve moved away from the straight staircase.
I’m really curious about BT’s design – others don’t even need to be discussed here.
Oh, you joyful one

So, like so many things, completely unclear. Is there not a single house with a cellar in the whole settlement?

At the time of the conversation, this sounded like that for this new housing development.
As for the old stock, I can of course say nothing.

To evaluate for oneself..., then you go on the offensive with that insight and continue to develop.

Haven't we done this with the 8.5 meter deep design?
You are acting as if nothing has developed. There were always new smart insights (especially stairs, building deeper, opening the west side, corridor on the upper floor too big, bathroom too narrow).

Then at some point the statement appears that one actually wants a closed kitchen or something else.

That is stated here in the 1st post.

It's stated right here in the 1st post.

I am building on October 3rd.

That was also in another forum.
There is there and here is here.

Which ones exactly do you mean? This one and this one? Gerrit83’s is already pretty extreme with the room sizes.

Izmir doesn’t matter. Any one of those you actually liked, but your wife wanted to stick with quer.

Misunderstood. I can already see the advantages of the rotated house.

No, you understood correctly. I meant that she should give you her willingness to compromise. But if she is already doing that now, ...

My wife actually said last night that if I think the house would be better rotated and the floor plan improved, then we can do it that way.

... well, then the proposals from Kriminelle and gerrit83 are back in the draw.

The Signus is actually 10.23 meters wide and has a straight staircase (with 14 steps). Removing 23 cm in width was still doable,

Yes, that’s already the limit for scar-free removable space, ...

Nevertheless, I was able to reduce the floor plan to 10 meters in width

... more precisely: “thought I could,” as you yourself say: ...

and cannot see what would not work about it.

... you just can’t see those things:

really, but apparently I have no eye for it.

... that’s all I tried to get across to you, and therefore one must at ...

Better not, she has transferred the spatial thing to me .

... only think of the goat as gardener
If she delegates that to you, that’s called "love" - not "wisdom"

There is there and here is here.

Sort of. Here the fellow discussants are more patient, but you are the same in both forums.

Google Pareto, then you will realize: whoever keeps refining at 90% target proximity cannot be helped in this world anymore. Or as the metalworkers say: after “tight” comes “loose.”

Pareto

The Pareto principle, as I know it, refers to 80/20. This system may work in many situations, but unfortunately not everywhere.

Suggestions from Kriminelle and gerrit83

gerrit83 did not propose a rectangular floor plan at all. And the two from Kriminelle unfortunately did not convince me that much. Small children's rooms, with one having the staircase in the living area.

Yes and no. Here the participants are more patient, but you are the same in both forums.

However, there are people here who are the same in both forums and do not let the past be the past.