Wow, this thread is really picking up speed now.
Let's see if I manage to reply to everything.
I had hoped to be able to start fresh with another forum.
Some comments from users who are active in both forums somehow spread a slightly negative vibe.
But it doesn’t say that the garage could also be on the east side or in another position. Unfortunately, the numbers on your site plan are all unreadable - resolution too poor. Therefore hard to assess.
Sorry, attached again hopefully in better resolution. The 3.5 m wide private path was originally only intended up to the middle of house 10. This is now extended up to the property boundary of house 11. So there is the option to park a car to the left of house 10 as well.
Furthermore, I’m adding the development plan. If I read the justification correctly, garages, etc. are only allowed in the building window or in the designated areas for garages, carports, and parking spaces (these would be for houses 1, 2, 3, and 11).
Put differently, why is the access to neighbor 11 narrower than to neighbor 9? If neighbor 9 extends his garden fence forward, it seems equivalent to me as if neighbor 11 did the same.
With the garage next to house 9, you can almost drive in straight. If the garage is on the left side (east), then you need to turn right around the corner once.
Maybe I should have handled the "garage" topic in a separate thread? This open question might somehow get lost in the floor plan discussion.
I like the first floor plan better. The house from the outside I don’t think is bad at all
Thanks for your feedback.
By the 1st floor plan do you mean the one from BT or the one drawn by myself?
Apparently (at least for now) it’s not possible to expect factual comments (in terms of pros and cons; alternative options, etc.)
That was my hope with switching to another forum. The thread in the other forum is exhausted (has a certain history behind it with occasionally diverging questions).
The OP didn’t describe anywhere that he wants to live in an original Bauhaus-style house (which hardly exists anymore nowadays)
If you ask us how we imagine our house, of course, we see a typical house with a gable or hipped roof. We want to have 2 full floors. Finding such a plot around here is not that easy. At first, the sight of such a building structure was a bit strange, but it’s something different compared to standard houses.
I guess the style is prescribed here, right? Considering the somewhat tight budget, the exterior will also be rather plain. But I don’t find that too bad.
We don’t consider the budget of just under 450 (thousand) for house with plot and incidental costs a real bargain.
These thoughts are almost criminal
Then I was right.
I thought it was limited to 130 characters
Didn’t that refer to the "most important/basic question about the floor plan"?
Unfortunately, the views posted here were not seen in the other forum at all, so I always left out that it should not be an "ugly" city villa, but a modern "box"
Sorry for leaving that out elsewhere.
I did say, I want to start fresh here.
there is still a magical figure in play, namely that the employer expects a home office of about 8 sqm.
Ah, so no home office without an adequate office. I understand.
You’re smiling about it, my employer isn’t. He refers to the workplace ordinance. This applies to our office buildings but also to home office workstations. This number is what my employer expects from our employees, otherwise some colleagues would want to work in some dark cupboards. If it’s 7.8 sqm, it will be accepted.
Furthermore, there should also be a garage. Realistically, I think it’s more likely that it will be used as a storage room; but it should be used for one car, where secondary owners won’t care if it was a garage vehicle or not.
Especially because you mess up the important garden with such a huge lump. How about a secret permission-free garden shed for garden stuff at the other end of the garden? Or a basement. The latter would clarify a lot here, I think. But there probably isn’t enough for that.
What I do understand, is the space requirement in the garage with 2 kids. Four bikes alone are certainly necessary.
If we buy cars, our plan is to drive them until the bitter end… no secondary owners.
If you have a garage, you surely park your car there… which also has its advantages in winter.
And yes, stuff like 4 bikes, 2 children’s scooters, garden furniture, grill, lawn mower also go in a garage… and whether it’s fun to bring the bikes out from a garden shed to the front every time I can’t say yet.
As I wrote in the other forum, we seriously asked ourselves in the meantime if a garage is really necessary. It feels like one is forced to have one with the house build. But we will also need parking space for the aforementioned things and a garage / extension is certainly cheaper than a basement. Besides, we don’t want to be exposed to the problems of groundwater with a basement.
And as I understood the OP, there is just one car or an occasional visitor car.
We actually have 2 cars… and occasionally a visitor.
that this is really a BT and not a GU - I have already admired this so much that the OP was annoyed about it
Did that come across that way?
That wasn’t meant like that. Somehow I had more the feeling that you didn’t want to believe me.
Only if the house allowed more space on another side, would the view from there be even more miserable (neighbors apparently also design their sides with weak commitment).
StanSch fell in love with these 10 meters, plus a little paranoia about the nearby neighbor’s house, which leaves its west side in total darkness
We (my wife even less than me) somehow can’t quite imagine to squeeze our terrace between our house wall and the neighbor’s garage, although 5-6 meters is as much space as some row houses and semi-detached houses have.
and my comment "I always say: real men drive women’s cars" he also took the wrong way.
Not quite right. I definitely double-checked whether it was meant ironically.
Written, you cannot immediately recognize the Berlin bluntness
I come from the Ruhr area, we wear our heart on our sleeve.