Comments on floor plan design welcome

I would really look for one of the floor plans mentioned here and adjust it minimally (have it adjusted); you just got ideas above anyway!!! I believe that you/your wife absolutely want certain things and are now basically forcing them into a floor plan by force. This inevitably creates the Tetris feeling; the result is neither functional nor harmonious. It really can’t be serious—that you, just for the sake of something special, want to go through the already not very large bathroom, then through a walk-in closet into your bedroom, which is somewhere at the end of the maze (or not).

"ins Schlafzimmer und von dort aus in Bad und Ankleide falsch sind und aber im Worst Case morgens beim Partner auf dem Topf vorbei zu müssen, wenn man raus möchte. DAS muss man wirklich wollen.

...exactly described here. In addition, you have actually planned an extra kind of escape door in the closet passage room so that you can leave the house as described in the worst case above and get back into the house from the front past the occupied bathroom. This is neither sensible nor functional, it is simply nonsense, sorry. Just imagine this in reality... you would need a roof there or always have a raincoat in the bedroom in case that happens. A bathroom with two doors is anything but comfortable anyway, and if your wife leaves the bathroom without opening the bedroom door again, you will eventually be found like Ötzi in the bedroom. You almost humorously write “locked in” and yet you have to realize that exactly that can’t work, right? The kitchen looks like a clunky room placed there and you have to walk around it; the kitchen door is pointless because the kitchen is open anyway; in my opinion, it would be more inviting if it were open. Upstairs, I would completely remove the walls/door at the living room and definitely keep it open. Maybe it also makes sense—an architect could do that—not to place the air space necessarily only over the dining room; maybe a different picture and possibilities for open design will emerge in the planning. I have really read very good ideas about houses and floor plans in your thread. I know that you like it to be beautiful. I myself also struggle with floor plans, so I stay away from it or leave it to people who can implement my ideas appropriately (or not, if crazy). I believe that is exactly what I want to recommend to you so that you get a great house. Just by the bedroom-bathroom-dressing room version you should recognize that another person needs to handle it, because this idea alone is out of this world. Nothing has happened yet...–

I would really look for one of the floor plans mentioned here and make minimal adjustments (have them made); you just got some ideas above anyway!!!
I believe that you/your wife want certain things so badly and now they are basically being forced into a floor plan. This inevitably creates that Tetris feeling; the result is then neither functional nor harmonious.
You really can’t be serious—with just the reason of something special, wanting to get through the already not very large bathroom and then through a walk-in closet into your bedroom, which is somewhere at the end of the maze (or not).

...here it is exactly described.
In addition, you actually planned a kind of escape door in the walk-through closet, so that, as described in the worst case above, you can leave the house through it, get past the occupied bathroom, and come back in from the front.
This is neither sensible nor functional, but simply nonsense, sorry. Just imagine it in reality... you would need a canopy there or always a raincoat in the bedroom, in case that ever happens. A bathroom with two doors is anyway anything but comfortable, and if your wife leaves the bathroom without opening the bedroom door again, you’ll eventually be found as Ötzi in the bedroom. You almost amusingly write “locked in” and you must notice that exactly that can’t work, right?
The kitchen looks like a bulky room just placed there and you have to walk around it; the kitchen door is pointless because the kitchen is open anyway; in my opinion, more open would be more inviting.
Upstairs, I would completely leave out the walls/door in the living room and definitely keep it open. Maybe it also makes sense—an architect would be able to do that—not to place the air space necessarily only above the dining area; maybe a different picture and possibilities of an open design arise in the planning.
I have really already read very good ideas about houses and floor plans in your threads. I know you want it to be nice. I myself also struggle with floor plans, so I stay away from it or leave it to people who adequately implement my ideas (or not, if crazy).
I believe THAT is exactly what I want to recommend to you, so that you get a great house. Just from the bedroom-bathroom-dressing room version you should realize that another person has to take over, because that idea alone is out of this world.
Nothing has happened yet.....

Hi, and thanks for your info. I do listen to you here, and I also think about many things. In some areas I follow it, in other areas we obviously just live differently.

We had a session with the planner last night and changed a few things on the ground floor. See attachment. Yes, the door is now in the dressing room. I personally find that unfortunate, but please...

The air space now extends over the entire depth of the left third of the house (depicted lighter in the sketch, and over the bedroom). The roof will be built there without a knee wall, so it will be lower: a) no very high rooms and b) the possibility to install windows upstairs.

When I look at the floor plan of the recommended Weberhaus mylife 400,
- I see that it is at least equally convoluted
- I see a huge room in which kitchen, sofa, dining table are placed seemingly at random. Am I right that the TV stands in the middle of the room and people at the dining table get to look at its back?
- Is the distance eye-to-TV about 3 meters? That would be too little for decent TV viewing for me. Not to mention that in this huge room not even something like acoustics will develop (topic 5.1 sound)
- there is neither an office nor a guest sleeping space. So an upstairs addition would be necessary. But there is no space for a staircase either.
- stove and sink are in the darkest area of the entire house.
- the installation room with heater, electricity meter, washing machine/dryer, connections, in the worst case ventilation system, is packed full.
- the guest toilet is located immediately next to the living room. I know that from friends and I always enjoy the noise development in the living room when guests are in the toilet.
- I find the hallway especially in the entrance area quite small. Where do coats hang, shoes stand, hats and scarves lie?
- where do everyday things happen: where are vacuum cleaner, ironing board, drying rack? Is laundry sorted? Every washing load has to be carried twice across the house (plus the way to the place where laundry dries. Wherever that may be)

These are the first quick questions about this floor plan. It’s similar with the Rensch-Haus: spontaneously 1000 questions.

I don’t understand either—what is different with us that the standards don’t please us, and why is what we plan “torn apart” so much?

Since this topic really interests me... how do you live? How do you plan a house: by appearance, or by daily routines and needs?

Regards, Andreas

I think if you plan everything downstairs, including the sleeping area and the utility room, then you actually don't need an upstairs at all, especially if the kids have basically already moved out. For what reason would you even go upstairs, except for cleaning? Why not rather have a more spacious living area downstairs and sleep upstairs? Then you also have the nice view of the planned atrium and with a stairlift, it's no problem even in old age.

Best regards
Sabine

I think if you plan everything downstairs, including the sleeping area and the utility room, then you really don’t need an upper floor anymore, especially if the children have basically already moved out. For what reason would you even go upstairs, except for cleaning? Why not rather have a more spacious living area downstairs and sleep upstairs? Then you also have the nice view of the planned open space and with a stairlift that’s no problem in old age either. Best regards Sabine

HI, a) the children still live with us, but not for much longer (probably, or hopefully) b) we now only partially have an upper floor. There is no upper floor in the living rooms downstairs and it is open up to the ridge c) we want to keep the option to create a separate apartment upstairs.

In other places, we obviously just live differently.

That’s a good thing.

Yes, the door is now in the dressing room. Personally, I find that unfortunate, but please ......

Of course place your door wherever YOU want - but WHY is that unfortunate, I would honestly be interested; really!
Therefore, I believe I can no longer contribute anything meaningful to you on this. What remains is what your children criticized.

When I look at the floor plan of the recommended Weberhaus mylife 400, then
- I see that it is at least just as cramped
- I see a huge room where the kitchen, sofa, and dining table have been placed at random in my eyes. Am I seeing it right that the TV is in the middle of the room and the people at the dining table get to look at its backside?
- Is the distance from eyes to TV about 3 meters? That would be too little for decent TV enjoyment for me. Not to mention that in this huge room there will hardly be anything resembling acoustics (topic 5.1 sound)
- There is neither an office nor a guest sleeping place. So you have to add a floor upstairs.

The thing has 135 sqm, you mentioned somewhere earlier something about planned 180. No wonder the 400 looks a bit tighter. It was just meant to show that with a bungalow you can have everything on one level without having to build 180 sqm. No guest sleeping place? I see 2 children's rooms. Small fun fact on the side: rooms called children's rooms can also be converted to offices, Weberhaus doesn't care much about that. "The room is huge," that’s why I said: push the 2 kitchen units to 120 cm apart and then build a wall behind the right unit. Then you have peace in the living room. And you just place the TV somewhere else. And yes, it is cramped. Just straighten the outer walls and then you get rid of the restlessness there. Swap the WC and the utility room, done.