Comments on floor plan design welcome

It was about the room layout and floor plan design.

What else is there to write here? The repeated advice to consult an architect is not being followed.

Space requirements on the ground floor, upper floor: see planning

I see a plan with at least 1/3 unnecessary space than needed. Or the furnishing doesn’t really work properly. Something’s not right here.

open kitchen, kitchen island: open, kitchen island optional, important: don’t cook with your back to the room. open-plan kitchen

I see a tiny kitchen, as small as the shower toilet.... In an apparently huge room, which only looks that way...

Personal price limit for the house, incl. equipment: 450k, possibly 500k

How big should it be?

Staircase in the middle for short distances.

Somehow it’s in the way. Is it freestanding? What about load-bearing walls?

The room at the back left is supposed to become the house connection room behind the carport. Outside the building envelope. Large, since it should also serve as a garden tool room.

Should the pipes freeze? Building services belong inside the thermal envelope!

The most important thing would be measurements in order to be able to assess the whole.

We have already built once. And quickly realized that the architect hadn't thought much about many corners. Now I have looked at many floor plans. All of them have more or less a combined living-dining room. Exactly what we do not want. We want a dining kitchen and a separate living room.

Fortunately, I learned during the first build back then to bring an interior designer on board. Often you know one or somewhere in your environment there is one who can create one or two rough initial drafts for a manageable price. ALL YOUR wishes and needs should be included in those. The floor plan has to work for me; everything else is, in my opinion, stuff. The implementation or the creative idea is something a trained interior designer has in their pocket. Only then would I get involved myself and adapt the many small details exactly to me (or have them adapted). I am currently planning/building for old age as well and am doing it that way again. We draw and plan all the time, but the basic idea comes from somewhere else, based on my wishes and necessities.

So profession and calling are not one and the same, and I regularly find it shocking how talentless some so-called "trained" whatever come across. That’s why I wouldn’t be nearly as optimistic there at first. Besides, it is occasionally demonstrated here in the forum that successful layouts don’t have to have anything to do with any title-holding players. (Of course, that can still work out, but I simply wouldn’t trust any professional title so unconditionally – incidentally, not only with regard to the construction industry.)

My dear swan, what heavy artillery. First of all, you don't just buy the title of architect at a fairground booth, and it is usually a FREELY chosen profession, unlike some others who choose their profession solely based on salary or commuting time. But of course, there are, as in all professions, including yours or mine, all sorts of people. Unlike with the authorities, I can freely choose the person here, and then at most I have made the wrong choice myself. Based on references or initial ideas, I can always make my own decision or change afterwards. There was no talk of unconditionality, rather I mean exactly the opposite. The condition is precisely that he designs something that fits me and that I, as a layperson (and most of us here are exactly that!), would never have come up with. There are thousands of floor plans on the internet or from prefabricated house providers, they are all "proven" and work. The focus is on individuality that fits me and my property.

What else is there to write here? The repeated advice to consult an architect is not being followed.

I see a plan with at least 1/3 unnecessary space than needed. Or the furnishings just don’t work properly. Something is off.

I see a tiny kitchen, as small as the shower toilet.... In an apparently huge room, which only seems that way...

How big is it supposed to be?

Somehow it’s in the way. Is it free-standing? What about load-bearing walls?

Are the pipes supposed to freeze? Building services belong within the thermal envelope!

Hello,

Thanks first of all.

The house in the current plan is 11.50m wide by 13m deep.

The kitchen furniture is drawn in. Yes, it is not its own room. More there is a small reception area (which was redesigned in the layout with the shower toilet) and then hallway, kitchen and dining room are one large room.

The stairs would be framed by walls. Basically closed.

Where don’t the furniture fit?

Regards sciliar