Floor plan proposals - What works, what doesn't?

I have tried a radical de-labyrinthification of the (ground floor) layout.

Red is the inner line of the exterior wall as a frame within which you can really let loose: 8.885 x 9.385 + 3.01 x 1.00. To prevent the overall calculation from "failing," I assumed a load-bearing wall per dimension, as 24 cm (the one drawn toward the living area is only 11.5 cm, the supplier probably installs 17.5 cm).



I only roughly indicated the staircase position as an "L," winding at the corner, otherwise mostly straight, with a short leg at the start and an exit near the center above the door to the living area. For the pantry, I am thinking of an interior sliding door running without casing. In the example, I gave the guest room the option to place a bed crosswise along the window wall. For that, it has to suffer as "also a clothes storage," which I would actually have preferred to avoid. But since it is not meant as more than a discussion contribution, I won’t go into all the details.

I actually think it's quite good... only now I can't imagine the furniture arrangement anymore... let alone how the staircase runs.. But I think it's good... except for the door to the pantry... that should be from the kitchen..

I think it's good... except for the access to the pantry... that should be from the kitchen..

In your drawing, it looked as if the access was planned from the utility room (because of the short way from shopping to the pantry, through the utility room's outside door). You had pushed the pantry into a recessed corner of the kitchen, which I initially wanted to adopt as well, but then I saw: it also works without this detour in the wall. This way, the "living area" can be divided more flexibly.

only now I can't imagine the furniture arrangement at all...

On the contrary: now the flow of all the furniture you can imagine is only slowed down by the bay window.

So: print it out, take scissors, play!

But you also have a disadvantage with the stairs... you always have to go through the living room if you want to go upstairs... or if "the kids" have visitors... always through there.. mmhmm..

Thank you very much anyway.. for the many efforts here.. whatever may come out of it now...

Could it be that the pantry is more important to you than the kitchen?

While you should certainly follow your own style when building a house, as the builder you should also sometimes consider whether something actually makes sense.
A pantry is nice and all (even though I don’t understand the argument about the heating... nowadays the heating looks like a large refrigerator, doesn’t stink, and there are no dirty coals lying around – on top of that, you can do without heating elements in the freezer/laundry room – that room would be the coolest in the house), but I don’t understand placing the pantry on the west exterior wall, possibly even with a little window. On top of that, it ruins a nice kitchen plan. Why does the pantry even have to be accessible from the kitchen in a medium-sized house (rather small, if you compare it to old farmhouses and country houses, where a pantry was common)?
I miss your openness to think “a few steps ahead” sometimes. Just imagine your everyday life: I can’t imagine that you (still without children) will constantly be taking any food out of a separate room – the fridge is for that nowadays. Therefore, yellow bags or drinks might be stored there, making it annoying to constantly fumble around in the pantry from the kitchen.
If the house were 15 meters long, I could vaguely understand it, but here you can just pivot on one heel and have taken a step to every other corner of the house.

Maybe I’m being a bit unfair now: in recent years I have participated in many house discussions here and have seen how future homeowners have sensibly planned every little corner of the house. This includes usable stairs with storage, a TV corner, a kitchen island and storage space, etc.
The kitchen was often planned only as a placeholder, but they reserved a reasonable area, and if not, it was explained to them what circulation space, walking space, working area, ergonomic working area, etc. mean.
With you, I don’t know if you understand the objections we give you or if they even reach you or if you are naturally aware of them.
I miss an exchange, a discussion. A response to one or another suggestion – I wouldn’t know where else to start now except: no straight stairway, no closed stairway, apparently no TV, pantry attached to the kitchen, kitchen in the west... pantry... somehow everything here revolves around one or two square meters, everything else seems almost irrelevant.

Please don’t be offended – I’m happy to help, I just want to present you with ideas of what is possible with the designs. But I couldn’t say whether you like any of them, whether you can warm up to an idea or not or whatever.

The fact is: you have 8.x meters available in width – quite a lot is possible, but not everything. You should face that.
I have a clear example right now of someone who wears size 42 trying to squeeze into 38, which fails. Instead of choosing size 42, they’re being stuffed like a sausage.

Otherwise: it’s your house – build it the way you want!
Regards, Yvonne