Plan living area floor plan

What do you think @dertill?

Bathroom next to bedroom, open-plan kitchen and living room separated, daylight bathroom and even a small hallway so you’re not standing directly in the living room. Great design! The internal kitchen/workshop for my wife would of course be a drawback. We need to discuss this calmly. The only negative point is the utility room in the sightline from the entrance. It would be nice if, when you come in, you have a direct view outside.

"Low renovation effort" is something I have never encountered when converting a stable into living space. It starts with soil excavation that often goes below the foundation edge and requires securing measures, all the way to desalination of the walls

Did I say it would be low effort? If yes, no no no, that’s not what I meant, we know it will be a lot of work. The stable was already "renovated" 15 years ago and has been used since then as an extensively used horse stable. The floor is already new with a 10 cm concrete slab. For the ceilings, of course, a structural engineer has to check if that’s okay. Sure, it won’t be cheap, but it’s not the first house I’m working on and the other parties involved know what they are getting into.

I don’t know how undemanding the mother-in-law is and what size of apartment she’s moving from, but I would avoid the kitchen/guest WC combo in that spot and plan a properly laid-out apartment for the mother-in-law and her dog

Mother-in-law would like to move into something smaller, she doesn’t want more than 80m2. I was unhappy with my first design for the reasons you mentioned, too. Hence the discussion here.

We need to discuss that calmly.

What came out of the discussion, Till?

What came out of the discussion, Till?

The draft did not find the hoped-for approval from either my wife or mother-in-law.
My mother-in-law was very skeptical about the elongated apartment, and my wife found the interior "kitchen" difficult or does not want it.
Your floor plan, unsatisfactory for you, was fitting for the future occupant.
The current favorite is attached.
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In the top right, there is a planned mix of a utility room and walk-in closet; in the niche, with a cabinet door in front, are the power distribution, water connection, and hot water heat pump.

Wow, sorry, you really have to want that. This dreary living corner with 2 meters distance to the TV in the flight path will never allow coziness. Then the bathroom without separation from the living area and the bedroom accessible through the utility room. You often have to make compromises in existing buildings, I agree with that. But here I would keep tinkering.

Wow, sorry, you really have to want that. This bleak living corner with 2m distance to the TV in the flight path will never allow coziness. Then the bathroom without separation from the living area and the bedroom accessible through the utility room. In existing buildings, you often have to make compromises, I agree with that. But here I would still tinker further.

I'm not happy with it either, but I don't have to live there.
The hallway could easily be extended and the entrance to the bedroom made directly from the hallway, then just with a wall closet in the hallway.
The bathroom is behind the kitchen, of course directly adjacent to the living area, but at least you don't sit with your head against the partition wall.
Nothing will be decided yet, though.
First, the monument protection office and then the building authority have to deal with the application for conversion. Before the application, we still have to work it out with the architect – who should also contribute his expertise. This should all start in spring or around Easter 2023, when we move in ourselves first.
I thought someone might still come up with another suggestion here that would convince mother-in-law and give my mind some peace.
But in the end, we will get a sensibly usable floor plan on 80m².

We are currently in the process of buying a farmstead in Schleswig-Holstein, [...] The part of the property previously used as a stable will be partially converted for my mother-in-law.

Despite different dimensions, my reading tip is: