Floor plan proposals - What works, what doesn't?

  • Erstellt am 2017-05-11 20:04:09

ypg

2017-05-18 17:46:05
  • #1
Although we have the stairs in the open living area, I can well understand that a more secluded variant is preferred here. We are only two, but in a household with children, one also wants some privacy while watching TV and not to be constantly disturbed by the teenage clique in the evening.

Pantry or not: it would fit slimmed down, for example accessible from the hallway. My opinion: it should be subordinate to the kitchen and not the other way around. Maybe even a small room with the depth of beverage crates would suffice, with shelves above – spread over more than a meter you can store quite a lot. I grow my own vegetables in the greenhouse but have no cellar. The motto is from the bed directly to the cooking pot. The small potato harvest fit in the garage, jam and preserves always find a place in a cupboard – supermarket supplies exist of course, but are limited to common cans and pasta, which share the cupboard with the preserves.

Utility room exit was also important to me, I would never have planned without it. But we hardly use it because we can also exit through the front door and the terrace. Maybe it’s because the terrace/utility room door is only 80 cm wide?! The path of shopping through the main entrance, laundry from upstairs directly to the terrace...

I find window in the WC important again, if the WC is used more often, i.e. planned for life. That would be the case with four people. Alone because of the natural light. You could do without it if it really only remains a guest WC, which does not regularly serve several people daily.

I don’t find it bad to make compromises rather than saying: if not exactly THIS way, then not at all.

Often good compromises come about.

My 2 Pence
 

Climbee

2017-05-18 18:23:34
  • #2
I am also an open fan of a pantry. Although you don’t necessarily have to take pantry literally.
I need such a little chamber for stuff I don’t use often but that takes up a lot of space: deep fryer, waffle iron, rice cooker, wok, ice cream maker, pasta machine, spare jars (when you have many guests and the glasses in the regular kitchen cabinet are not enough), tins for Christmas cookies, goose roaster, etc.
Sure, you can also store all that in kitchen cabinets, but honestly: such a kitchen cabinet costs a few hundred euros, if I have a pantry with stable but cheap shelves inside, I come out much cheaper and I also have more storage space. My favorite for a pantry are those shelving systems with strips on the wall where the shelves are hooked in. You can then make one shelf across the entire width of the chamber without disturbing slats in between. And I can fit far more in there than in side-by-side kitchen cabinets (which are only really optimally usable if they have pull-outs, and then it gets even more expensive).
And I currently live in a well-insulated house and still the pantry is a bit cooler than the rest. You can definitely achieve that if you place it on the right side (north is ideal) and possibly don’t have cooling appliances in it.

For example, I personally don’t like to keep potatoes and onions in the fridge; storing them in a pantry is ideal. I also have fresh vegetables, but we always keep a certain stock of pasta, canned tomatoes, etc. so that we can spontaneously feed unexpected guests without having to go shopping quickly (we live very rurally, shopping means driving at least 5 km). I find that very pleasant. And admittedly, I am a hunter and gatherer. When I’m out and about, if I find unusual pasta shapes or interesting canned vegetables, canned fish that we don’t have here (I’m thinking of a fish factory in Cefalù in Sardinia, I haven’t found such amazing canned sardines anywhere else and stocked up there with a certain supply), then I strike.
So I don’t need my pantry for fresh things, but for my special kitchen equipment and for my hunting results.
And if you only plan a small chamber for one row of shelves, it’s enough that this chamber is exactly big enough to fit the shelves, open the door, and stand in front of it. You don’t need more, and the thing is still very useful.
Those who don’t have as much stuff as I do and don’t like to collect as much can surely accommodate that in one or two additional kitchen cabinets.
So I think it simply depends on what you basically intend to store there and how you are basically wired with regard to kitchen equipment and stockpiling.

If I live near a well-stocked supermarket, stockpiling looks very different than if I am kilometers away from any shopping opportunity.

Personally, I also don’t want a toilet without daylight. Sure, there are great exhaust systems (even some that suck right from the bowl), but a quiet place with light is more pleasant. I would prefer to do without that in the freezer room. Heating, electrical, possibly water softener, and controlled residential ventilation don’t need daylight.
 

Ev-Marie86

2017-05-18 20:41:52
  • #3
Yes.. That's not so easy So if you still have ideas about how to arrange things, I am of course open.. My initial "closing off" has already changed a bit... at the moment I am really thinking about a different staircase... relatively close to the entrance... Then a nice kitchen.. BUT I AM NOT A FAN OF AN ISLAND... However, I can't imagine it upstairs anymore... What I don't want to give up is the utility room upstairs... That is important to me... So as I said, if anyone has ideas for the new arrangement.. I am open.. I'm also trying again myself right now
 

11ant

2017-05-18 20:54:34
  • #4
The more unfavorably the exit is located, the more traffic area consumption is inevitable upstairs. Why do you need two utility rooms? - upstairs you need the dressing room more, it belongs where you get dressed/undressed. Unless it is only supposed to be a storage room for off-season clothes, then it can be located separately. And even together with canned goods.
 

Ev-Marie86

2017-05-18 21:01:25
  • #5
Dressing rooms are not for me... everything gets dusty there... I have a three-meter wardrobe that is enough for me... I know everyone wants a dressing room... I can definitely do without that...
 

Ev-Marie86

2017-05-18 21:13:05
  • #6
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