Floor plan proposals - What works, what doesn't?

As I already wrote in your thread, there are banal reasons (here as well, by the way). When the ideas for the house and the plot are two different things, the number of attempts until you understand that can become nearly infinite. Conversely: with every mental block you are willing to break down, you get closer to the solution (of the knot).

Basically, it is not difficult: [...]

An architect (that is, a professional house designer), who nevertheless makes ten unsuccessful attempts, either cannot listen or does not dare to dissuade the client from the most impossible whims.

Apart from the fact that furniture is interchangeable and everyone has different demands for living, you cannot please everyone. The planner cannot work magic either. We wanted 6 rooms (living room, bedroom, 2 offices, and 2 children's rooms) and a double garage. At the back, we have a building boundary, and on the left and right, we were actually supposed to keep 4 meters distance, but the plot is only 18 meters wide. You then have to make compromises in some points that are less important to you. Do we need 30 sqm for sleeping? Do the children need a 10 sqm children's bathroom? We did not think so, so we cut back there. Some families share one bathroom every morning, and downstairs there would also be an alternative in the form of another shower bathroom.

You don't find our floor plan successful. That is okay. But the way you present yourself here and distribute advice on how, in your opinion, to develop a floor plan, I find condescending and also inappropriate.

You do not find our floor plan successful.

This concerns the one from Ev-Marie86, I will comment on your floor plan in your thread.

I find the contributions of 11ant quite competent and worth reading....

I find 11ant's posts quite competent and worth reading....

That pleases me. However, there are "doctors" who are precise surgeons but not at the same time diagnoses deliverers with kid gloves, quite often even in my profession. Moreover, the Berlin bite in written German comes across as a bit too rough.

But if you stand there and have no idea... and you hope that at least the draftsman tells you "the truth," and then something like this comes out like here... we specifically drove 120 km to the architect, or rather she is only a draftsman as I now know... we somehow pushed the second variant with the utility room in the middle there... she found it "super great" everything... and then I posted this here and I was almost shocked... I actually thought I was done... we are actually quite modest... want something nice and practical without much frills... only neither of us really had any ideas... we both grew up in big families (4 children each) and always had a big house with a garden... now we live in 75 sqm in a rental apartment... you can't compare that to a house... I know that you have simply seen a lot of things and I fully respect that... I just hoped for a few tips... I didn't want more...

But when you're standing there with no clue ...

Yes you do. You actually have a ton of solid knowledge. About yourself. That's what you build on.

Now we live in 75 sqm in a rented apartment... you can't compare that to a house...

Some things you can. A door in the rental apartment that you bump into when you try to get through with a full laundry basket: it's too narrow. Then it is the same in your own house. So you know: it has to be wider there.

and you hope that at least the draftsman tells you "the truth"

They have received a clear instruction: implement wishes in the drawings, don’t drive away customers. If a dressing room where you bruise your elbows is approvable: then you get it. Wasting a quarter of the pantry’s width just for the cabinet where the sliding door runs, they don’t question that. See: clear instruction.

By the way: you really don’t want to know how the draftsman is paid. It’s better that way, otherwise you’d feel sorry for Draft Number Three and be satisfied with it whether it’s good or not.