Planning kitchen appliances. How to proceed. Market is not clear

No idea if you meant me because I’m treating myself to a LEICHT kitchen (by the way not on credit).

Maybe I’ll just clarify my position again. Ikea kitchen compared to, for example, the kitchen I chose is significantly cheaper, but not "cheap." Definitely a solid choice, which is meant completely without any arrogance or judgment.

For me, there was simply nothing suitable at IKEA, plus our kitchen is the focal point, and we had very specific ideas that we found there in terms of color and texture (Bondi front in carbon gray). For example, a flush-mounted sink was important to us, not (only) for practical reasons, but also for aesthetic reasons. And aesthetics are in the eye of the beholder, thus subjective and often associated with higher prices that cannot be described as economically rational. And that is absolutely not meant as a judgment. If it came across as arrogant or snobbish, I’m sorry, it definitely wasn’t meant that way. On the contrary: everyone has their individual requirements and assigns different values to things – and that’s okay, isn’t it?
I also can’t understand how people can spend the equivalent of a property (or more) on a car, a car definitely wouldn’t be worth that to me, even if I find an RS6 Avant nice. If I had the money it would still be a T2, 3, or 4 and a carbon racing bike with eTap and otherwise a nice break to have fun with the above equipment [emoji6]
So, sorry Nordlys if it came across the wrong way.

Phew, what depths of arrogance... the pinnacle was the sentence that since this is a new construction forum, one could surely assume that decent furniture would be bought here. At least that's how I remember it. I'm glad not to have neighbors like that; our old Twingo probably wouldn't be allowed in the neighborhood, and if it wasn't the Weber gas grill but a Landmann tripod on the terrace—which of course has to be pure terrazzo—you'd get a serious warning from the block warden.

Well, if someone wants to misunderstand and whine, go ahead. No one has to buy nice furniture or anything else here, but if you invest +/- 500k in a project and then want to save 370 EUR on furnishing, that's kind of... weird in the end. But everyone is free to do as they please.

Maybe to clarify my position once again. IKEA kitchens are significantly cheaper compared to, for example, the kitchen I chose, but not "cheap". Definitely a solid choice, which is meant entirely without any snobbery or judgment.

The IKEA kitchen is certainly worth its money, don't get me wrong. But it’s not a grab bag and not comparable to higher-priced kitchens. However, if you’re looking in the IKEA price range, you can certainly go with IKEA. You should also not forget that IKEA has a profit margin of well over 10%. It’s not like IKEA passes on profits to customers through extremely efficient processes. No, no – that ends up with the corporation.

Grym, the point is that you probably live in a different world. Plus or minus 500 for a project, you don't save 370 on furniture. Our new build project comes with 280 all inclusive with land, garden, paving, kitchen, blinds, lights inside and outside, and a new washing machine. It's been billed, finished, I live in it, not a fantasy number. And it shouldn't have been much more expensive either, it really makes a difference whether the kitchen costs 4800 or 24800. It also makes a difference whether the outdoor lamp costs 100 or 1000, etc. Karsten

Most people here build a house for 4-5 people, including children and future children. Of course, your bungalow for 2 will be cheaper, no question. But that cannot be the benchmark by which I base my answers. I would say, estimated at least 90-95% of the builders here build larger than you, so for 3 or more people. And for most, it will definitely end up costing 400k+ (including everything like outbuildings, outdoor facilities, fence, terrace, kitchen, new furniture, moving costs, financing costs during construction, garden tools, ...).

It's not about 5k or 25k. I calculated the exact same kitchen with the same kitchen furniture, as far as possible (IKEA not exactly the same due to 20 cm grid) as well as assembly and the IKEA internet price of the appliances plus 50 EUR installation costs.

IKEA (plus appliances from the internet + 50 EUR assembly fee per appliance; assembly service, which you strongly criticized in terms of quality by IKEA): 15k
[Nobilia] Line N (furniture, appliances, assembly, full warranty): 16k
Schüller Grifflos (furniture, appliances, assembly, full warranty): 18k

Appearance and quality of the fronts are significantly better with Nobilia and Schüller.

I had calculated the kitchen as far as possible with IKEA as a comparison including assembly service. Only the carcass would have been 150 euros cheaper at Ikea. To really save money, it would have had to be the Ikea electrical appliances.

There are also a few extras in our kitchen that are not necessary, like Berbel Moviline. My husband and I both really enjoy cooking. I am also looking forward to finally having an induction cooktop.

Some of the furniture will be Ikea. There is a toddler living in the household and they just use furniture differently. I don’t want to have a heart attack because color spills or paint chips off.
There are beautiful Ikea hacks for everyone with some craftsmanship skills.
The dining table will be a custom-made piece from a carpenter made from old barn wood.