Planning kitchen appliances. How to proceed. Market is not clear

The pricing policy of some manufacturers is also strange. We were interested in an induction cooktop with integrated extractor hood for our new kitchen. Siemens, for example, offers attractive models that, with their list price of over 4400 euros, are far beyond what we want to spend. So we had actually already given up the idea that such a Siemens appliance would be an option for us. And then we go to the kitchen studio, and a model that is interesting for us costs 1961 euros below list price...

Yes, and then it also depends on the kitchen studio itself, as already mentioned, after tough negotiations we paid less with top-class appliances than without appliances...

And then we go to the kitchen studio, and a model that is interesting for us costs 1961 euros below list price...

Look at what the Siemens appliances cost online to get the "real" price. For example, the cooktop from the IQ700 series mentioned by the OP costs 1,150€ in the Siemens online shop (and he wants two), while in the "wild" it is available from 350€.

These so-called kitchen studios, with block billing and super special conditions and house price minus xx% because only today and because it's you, really get on my nerves. And unfortunately, that includes all the furniture stores and those who let themselves be "bargained down" with counteroffers. Seriously, does anyone really believe that just because you come around the corner with another offer, they will make an exception and lower the price again? As a rule, they simply made an "offer" that was way too expensive in the first place. I interpret that as making a fool out of the customer, which I am not willing to go along with.

A solid kitchen builder tells you in advance what’s going on, namely that you are not in a bazaar and the price is the price, even if you come around the corner with a 10% cheaper offer. My current experience is that beyond the furniture store chains, you get more for the same money – in my case, quality of the fronts and consulting/planning. It might well have been a coincidence or an isolated case. But Hö***ner, X**l and all their likes were nothing across the board. The only serious alternative for us was the kitchen carpenter. Ultimately decisive for us was that our kitchen builder had already worked well with our architect several times, which was important to us due to some constructive details.

By the way, both the kitchen builder and the carpenter had no problem with devices provided by the client and sourced from the internet. The carpenter even recommended it because he could never offer the devices so cheaply. We should have them delivered to him, then he will bring them along and install them. You could try suggesting that at the furniture store or at so-called kitchen studio chains like "Die Küchenplaner"...

But not everyone is likely to share this point of view... [emoji6]

For example, I was in a furniture store. We have a relatively large kitchen, I would say. The planner and salesman designed and drew the kitchen, and on a large monitor you could watch the progress. When he was finished: "You have a great kitchen with top appliances - that of course costs something. My computer tells me: 51,000 euros" ... "But we have a fair next week, I can probably go down to 30,000" ... "I'll get my supervisor, maybe he can do something, he has more permissions in the system" ... Supervisor comes, sits at the computer, makes a thoughtful expression and probably plays strip poker ... "Okay, the computer is calculating now" ... plays strip poker for another 2 minutes ... "So, we can offer you 19,999 euros - but only until tomorrow" ... I say goodbye, I'll think about it. Two days later an email arrives: "We are pleased to offer you the kitchen at the price of 18,800 euros..."

That’s more or less how it went in a kitchen studio. It was really too stupid for me. So I bought a kitchen at Ikea "out of principle," without electrical appliances. It was quite a hassle, but for the same price I ended up with a much better equipped kitchen. I bought the electrical appliances from completely different dealers using price comparison websites and saved at least four figures.

Nicely told. And surely it was exactly like that.