Planning kitchen appliances. How to proceed. Market is not clear

2017-09-17 07:21:23

To the OP, how was the appointment at the studio?

2017-09-17 07:29:53

Most people here build a house for 4-5 people, so including children and future children. Of course, your bungalow for 2 will be cheaper, no question. But that cannot be the standard by which I base my answers here. I would say, estimated at least 90-95% of the builders here build bigger than you, so for 3 people or more....

This babble in the checkered college sweater vest is actually very annoying.
All that’s missing is the wagging finger, that only certain professions and salaries are allowed to build. But then only with mainstream requirements-plan, so you can outwardly recognize your new friends by the front garden.

It’s awful when people develop a drawer-ranking from their desk themselves.

2017-09-17 08:05:50

Appearance and quality of the fronts at Nobilia and Schüller clearly better.

Such a generalization is nonsense or a matter of taste.

2017-09-17 10:19:28

Regarding Grym's comparative calculation. Seriously, we did compare as well. After a first visit to Ikea, my wife said she could imagine such a kitchen. A rough plan by me in the company's online planner revealed a net assembly price of 3800,-. Then the construction manager came and said, now kitchen planning but quickly, we want to pour the base slab and the drains have to be fixed. That brought time pressure. Visit to Möbel Kraft, that was out of the question. Nobilia, price unclear, I stopped the discount and asking the manager part due to disrespect towards the customer, even quite brusque and rude. I was angry. A small studio, 7-8 Nobilia, depending on which appliances, including installation. IKEA seriously then 4800,- including appliances, installation, delivery. That was really no difference in the peanuts range, especially since the Nobilia offer did not seem qualitatively outstanding either. The Veddinge lacquer fronts chosen by my wife, silk matte, the wide aluminum handles, the many drawers including corner carousel, the LED panels under the wall cabinets, the drawer organizers, their lighting, etc. would have cost quite a surcharge at Nobilia, that would have added another thousand on top. Certainly you can now say the assembly would have gone better there, you would have had Siemens instead of Ikea fantasy names, you would have had to negotiate a bit more. But I don’t take it seriously if a dealer lets himself be negotiated down by say three thousand, because he did not take me seriously beforehand. Karsten

2017-09-17 10:45:07

Regarding Grym's comparison calculation. Seriously, we did compare as well. After a first visit to Ikea, my wife said she could imagine such a kitchen. A rough planning by me in the company's online planner gave a net installation price excluding delivery of 3800,-. Then the builder came and said, now kitchen planning, but quickly, we want to pour the base slab and the drains have to be fixed. So time pressure came in. Visit to Möbel Kraft, that was out of the question. Nobilia, price unclear, the discount and asking the boss – I stopped the discussion because of disrespect towards the customer, even quite brusque and rude. I was angry. A small studio, 7-8 Nobilia, depending on which appliances, including installation. IKEA seriously then 4800,- including appliances, installation, delivery. That really was not a difference in the peanuts range, especially since the Nobilia offer did not seem outstanding in quality either. The Veddinge lacquer fronts in silk matte chosen by my wife, the wide aluminum handles, the many drawers including corner carousel, the LED panels under the upper cabinets, the drawer fittings, their lighting, etc. would have cost quite a surcharge at Nobilia, that would have been another thousand on top. Surely you can say now, the installation would have gone better there, you would have had Siemens instead of fantasy names from Ikea, you would have had to negotiate a bit more. But I don't take it seriously if a dealer lets himself be negotiated down by say three thousand, that means he did not take me seriously before. Karsten

But Nobilia is not to blame for your unfortunate choice of kitchen studio/furniture store. We informed ourselves beforehand where there are fair prices right away and went to 3 providers. With one we were wrong and there was the same Nobilia kitchen for 20k, ok. 25% more expensive. But the other two providers hit the right price right from the start. Including lighting, drawer fittings, sealing the sink base, ... - everything calculated everywhere.

2017-09-17 10:47:02

In dieser Pauschalität Blödsinn bzw. Geschmackssache.

If you want a high-gloss front, like 80-90% of all kitchen buyers, then at IKEA you only have this foil front. And if you want handleless, then it's a complete fail at IKEA.

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Planning kitchen appliances. How to proceed. Market is not clear

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