Special floor plan or boring with basement?

  • Erstellt am 2023-10-08 22:40:44

11ant

2023-10-09 13:15:32
  • #1
These will be floor-to-ceiling windows – obviously without a flat threshold. I had already thought you might be able to read height specifications written with invisible ink ;-) I did not look for such details at all. They belong at the earliest in design plans. Details shown here are already included, which are absolutely inappropriate for preliminary design planning. The proper scale for preliminary design is for good reason 1:200, because individual centimeters have no business being included there yet. It is a gross planning error if an "architect" is already fantasizing about wall coverings while fundamental questions like "basement yes or no" / "does the house fit the budget" have not yet been clarified!!!
 

andimann

2023-10-09 13:25:51
  • #2
Hello,
I would swap Child 2 and the bedroom. Why do you want to occupy the brightest and sunniest spot in the upstairs with a place where only you stay to sleep (so in the dark)?
And the children's rooms absolutely must be as exactly the same size as possible.

Best regards,

Andreas
 

haydee

2023-10-09 13:49:03
  • #3
huge kitchen and small dining area in the living room. That’s what I notice quickly. So not generous

With the high estimate - which is usually always too low, you can only reduce.

Look at every room whether necessary, nice, or filler, because there is a basement anyway.
Go through every room. The kitchen has dead space, the living room feels very cramped. The dressing room is very spacious.
Pantry has a lot of traffic area for the little storage space

Be sure to draw in existing or desired furniture to scale and consider movement space
 

ypg

2023-10-09 14:24:42
  • #4
According to the soil survey, you therefore cannot or it is advised against, also for cost reasons, to build a basement?! That can happen sometimes.

Now comes plan B, right? The floor plan would be obsolete with plan B. Basement replacement room, technology, and hobby can also be realized inside the house itself, e.g., increasing the floor area, partial roof conversion, or extension with appropriate usable space. Of course, all of this can also be done in combination. So I would say goodbye to the current house design.

Or what option are you aiming for?
 

hanghaus2023

2023-10-09 15:13:09
  • #5
60 cm is not a big slope. The basement rule from says it is not worth having a basement.

Especially not with groundwater.

In which direction does the slope go?

Without a basement, you will probably stay within the budget.

The northern boundary is probably still negotiable?

Are there no photos of the property?

No aerial photo with the surroundings?

Did the architect work without a soil survey and survey plan?
 

FamilieForest

2023-10-09 21:42:06
  • #6
Thank you first of all for your explanations!



Exactly, the architect was referred to us by Luxhaus, but at the beginning we asked if it would also be possible to plan the house as a solid construction or with another prefabricated house or another timber frame construction. The architectural firm has experience with both and also works with several prefabricated house manufacturers. Of course, a plan with solid masonry would change the floor plan a little bit again, but according to the architect, that is no problem. And the architect also knows the budget and, I think, should be able to estimate it reasonably well. But probably he is also "biased" because we came to him through Luxhaus and not directly. Our plan was then also to give the floor plan to other prefabricated houses/solid construction to get a few offers and be able to compare something at all. With such a sum/a project and especially without any expertise, we do not want to put all our eggs in one basket.

I still don’t know whether one should or must start again from scratch. With the original plan (the extension was initially around the corner) we already found the whole thing pretty good and it actually met all of our wishes. But the corner extension was already discouraged to us because it is exorbitantly expensive – and the agreement was then just an extension in one direction of the house. And now suddenly we should restrict/adjust ourselves a lot again: no extension at all or no basement. And that means we are basically already completely away from our dream house.


Do you also have recommendations on who one could speak with?


I have already read the rule here and also looked it up in the relevant blog. We have very little "slope" (60 cm) and therefore according to the rule a basement is probably not very sensible. In addition, there are the poor soil conditions.


We are not yet fixed. So far, we have just let ourselves be lulled by the prefabricated house marketing, but it definitely remains open. Does that mean you offer brokerage to an architect? Or basically support with floor plan design?


We now wanted to do this building preliminary request together with the architect. But he said for this the exterior dimensions of the house must already be fixed, including the location on the property, and important parameters like roof shape, number of floors, basement yes/no. According to a telephone inquiry by the architect at the building authority, everything is permitted. I am also attaching an aerial photo here, you can then see the slope of the property. Red = roughly one side of the house. On the street, all old buildings, and then to the right a new development area. Does that help to clarify? Or if not: where can I get better data? The cadastral excerpt is not very informative because there is a lot of undeveloped area next to it.
 

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