First floor plan single-family house - Your ideas also regarding the property

  • Erstellt am 2019-01-11 21:48:12

MRN2018

2019-01-13 09:30:34
  • #1


Unfortunately, the parcel has not yet been subdivided.
However, I still have a picture here with the approximate dimensions.

Thank you!
 

Escroda

2019-01-13 10:20:53
  • #2
Well, they don't differ that much from my measurements. Where do they come from? It seems as if someone roughly took measurements from the development plan with a yardstick. The main difference is that your plot includes the 2m ring, which doesn't make up 100m² either. Well, the fine tuning has to be done by your planner anyway. The fundamental issue with the plot becomes clear: the closer the house moves to the street, the narrower it has to be. Conversely: the wider the house, the further south it has to move, and the less usable garden remains - okay, with a 1040m² plot at the edge of town this is acceptable, but I would invert the aspect ratio of your design. Since the development plan was not exactly drawn up according to planning symbol regulations, I wonder what the lines of the 2m ring are supposed to represent. I would have thought outer circle = street boundary line, inner circle = curb. If your plot extends to the smaller circle, that should be the street boundary line. But what does the outer circle mean then? Are there height restrictions in the development plan (eaves, ridge, building, base, knee wall height)? Are there restrictions on roof shape and/or pitch and/or extensions (dormer, cross gable)? That cannot be stated like that in the development plan, as there are no half floors legally in planning law. How many floors does the development plan specify? When did the development plan become legally binding? Are the building volumes registered in the development plan supposed to specify a ridge direction?
 

MRN2018

2019-01-13 10:39:49
  • #3
Thank you very much for the many constructive answers!

I will try to respond to all contributions collectively so that the overview is not lost.

On the topic of budget:
Ok, in hindsight it was probably a mistake to state a budget of 350,000 here.
It is primarily a "desired budget" with the goal of being done with financing in 20 years.

A house with a basement and garage is the maximum version.
We indicated the budget here to clarify that the budget plays a bigger role for us than ultimately having a house in this form. That means we are willing, for example, to replace the basement with a larger living area or the garage with a carport plus an adjoining storage room (for bicycles, etc.).

Nevertheless, I believe that Lower Franconia cannot be compared with Upper Bavaria.
Especially if you build with solid construction and rely on regional construction companies, the price level should still differ significantly here (even though it is basically high).

Of course, a basement is very expensive and can be ruled out right away if we decide on a prefabricated house. However, in the case of solid construction, the situation looks different in my opinion and may make sense (a smaller living area + basement probably does not cost much more than increasing the base area).

-> Conclusion on the budget:
Please disregard it for now - there is still room for upward adjustment. It's more about the
basic idea of planning the house as efficiently as possible while considering the costs.

On the topic of the bathtub:
Our entire extended family covers ages from 6 months to 89 years.
Those under 70 still hardly bathe, those over 80 no longer get into the tub. I was mostly showered as a child, and our 6-month-old baby has been showered for some time now - although not alone yet.

-> Conclusion on the bathtub:
Everyone has at least one, but no one bathes. It serves at most as a place to put clothes and gather dust. Of course, there are enough people who like to bathe and do not want to do without it (then it makes sense). However, we do not belong to that group and prefer to relax by going to the thermal baths occasionally.
So, still no.

On the topic of the floor plan:
Based on our sketch, we yesterday received a first proposal from a general contractor (see pictures).

I have to say that we have received two offers, one with a basement and one without. For more precise planning before the offer, we will have a planning meeting soon.

Without basement:
- As an alternative, we would have the extension with a utility room (actually a technical room) + windbreak. However, we are not completely happy with this yet since the overhang might restrict the view from the study.
- We want to avoid having to pave a large driveway to the property, so the direct attachment of the garage will not be viable anyway. Possibly the garage/carport could be placed directly in front of the house.
- In the upper floor, it would be ideal if we could somehow still fit in a utility room.
- The cloakroom can be omitted due to the windbreak.

With basement:
- The extension or transition to the garage is eliminated, and the technical and utility rooms move to the basement.
With this, I think the floor plan is basically quite usable.

Regarding previous comments:
- The dressing room probably makes little sense due to its size. It is probably better to remove the wall to create a better feeling of space or leave only a recess for the wardrobe.

- The pantry is actually not placed "in the middle" but closes off with the cabinets from the kitchen side. We are taking kitchen appliances from our current apartment, including a refrigerator (with freezer compartments), which will be placed directly in the kitchen.
We got the idea for the pantry from a Hanse show house and also visited the show house to get a feeling for the size and found it good.

- The half-landing staircase takes up a lot of space. Could it perhaps be replaced by another kind to gain more space for the living area?

- In the "with basement" variant, the basement stairs still need to be accommodated somewhere.

In summary:
The most important things for us now are
a) to find out how best to position house + garage. Ideally with a relatively small driveway to gain a lot of space to the south. It is not a must that the garage is directly attached to the house.

b) to find the right floor plan. That means with or without basement and optimal utilization of living space.
Of course, a certain sense of space should be retained; we don’t want to sit in a tiny room 1 meter in front of the TV in the evening.


 

boxandroof

2019-01-13 11:26:45
  • #4
I usually don’t write here, but the proposal is very close to our house, including the north arrow.

There will surely be more comments regarding the extension.

We built it as attached: almost identical room areas. House is 0.5m longer. Washer/dryer hidden behind the shower in the bathroom. 2x children facing west. Pantry under the stairs. One 12m2 room more on the upper floor in the gable. Just under 150m2 according to DIN.

We didn’t want a bathtub at first either, but we decided to have one anyway.
 

halmi

2019-01-13 11:36:20
  • #5
Without going into everything, if you are sure about the stuff then it's fine

The pantry doesn’t work like this. Leave out the room and simply add two more tall cabinets to the kitchen in that spot. I would omit the shower downstairs, nobody uses it anyway, and turn the current cloakroom into a storage room.

The dressing room is actually too small like this. I would leave out the wall, then the room as a whole benefits from the extra square meters.
 

Escroda

2019-01-13 11:36:40
  • #6
He probably doesn’t know your property yet. And where is your proposal for that? I think the order of planning is still not right. First the floor plan and then see where to place it on the property, which leads to:
 

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