The vs discussion makes sense if there isn’t much financial leeway and your arguments are simply wrong. (With regard to costs) ... You mentioned something about a 70 sqm garden. Zaba brought you back down to earth and now you’re sulking. They’re trying to help you here and you don’t want to accept anything somehow.
Have I argued anywhere that a prefabricated house is cheaper? On the contrary.
Zaba simply assumes that I want to make my entire long side with 7 x 4 to the terrace – yes, true, then there is little garden left. BUT I have actually never claimed that I want that... We actually thought more of a terrace on the northeast corner, but apparently that doesn’t matter.
I don’t want to accept anything?! Wow. Sorry, but I can only shake my head.
If you only wanted concrete experience reports on these 4 companies, you are in the wrong subforum. Possibly this created the impression you wanted more general tips. Otherwise the best place is here: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/forums/Erfahrungen-mit-Hausbau-firmen.119/
No, I didn’t want only concrete experience reports on that. Many answers have been and still are very, very helpful!
I have been in houses built on 300 sqm. But they only had 106 sqm of living space. Therefore, I can’t imagine getting 140 sqm properly. I would go for 110-120 sqm of living space and additionally provide a basement. With the budget of 390,000€ that should still work.
The basement is a tricky thing – we would basically prefer one too. But when I look at the prices of the houses, I don’t know if it really fits the budget...
If I take the house from Gussek Haus (myline 140), it costs 235,000 excluding interior doors, excluding painting, and excluding floors. Together with the fittings, that will surely be 30,000 more (Or am I really too naive here? I really don’t have much knowledge about this yet!). Then the basement with 50,000 (?) and additional construction costs, which also increase due to the basement. That makes 375,000 including the plot – are the remaining 75,000 enough for the additional construction costs with a buffer? Or does this calculation even make sense at all? It’s supposed to be just a rough estimate.
I interpret the mentioned brands as a hint to good double earners. However, the OP doesn’t seem to have just crashed in here, but has read a bit in the forum, so any naivety is somewhat reduced if it existed originally.
My spontaneous concerns would have been to want to magically create 140 sqm of living space from an 84 sqm base area, which is quite sporty anyway, but especially in BY regarding distance rules. The aerial photo rather suggests that 3m side building distances might also work here with a generous knee wall. Would the neighbor possibly sell one more meter of garden width?
I am certainly still naive about many things concerning house building. But we both deal professionally a lot with land purchases and developments, so at least we have some basic knowledge. By the way: We both work in the greater Munich area, where even other houses are built on even smaller plots, necessity is the mother of invention, after all.
Unfortunately, the neighbor doesn’t want to sell (we also once had the idea to simply buy and merge the rear parts of both parcels). But he also has grandchildren who want to build. Just not right now, otherwise a duplex would have been possible. That’s why he also doesn’t want to give up the one meter, otherwise it would become even more difficult to build on his plot, which is actually still a bit narrower than “ours.”
A seven-meter-wide house works.
The walls just shouldn’t have the width of a KfW40 house.
Check out alpinahaus in Vorarlberg. They have really clever narrow floor plans.
Do you still have leeway in length?
The suggestion from with the bay window/protrusion would certainly help the house width.
Or maybe the neighbor on plot no. 74 would take over a distance area easement, of course for money??
I also recommend a basement for the house size. Utility room, technology, office, storage in the basement.
An architect would certainly enjoy the challenge of the size.
What are your room wishes?
The floor plans from alpinahaus are really great! I have to save some later! Thanks!
The length isn’t fixed for now. It was just a rough estimate after we saw several model houses. To get to the desired area, they were all about 12m long. If it gets longer, then there will definitely be little garden left... (Although, as I said, I don’t have big demands there. We don’t have the time to maintain the garden anyway.)
The suggestion with the bay window is really great! Many, many thanks to Scout for that!
About the architect: In the Gussek house model and in the Kampa house, architects were present – both got bright eyes when we told them about the plot. It’s of course great and makes a good impression when you immediately notice someone is excited about something like this and doesn’t immediately patronize you when you talk about the plot size (that happened sometimes).
Room wishes... Actually (I believe) quite simple: an open living area, a guest WC, two children’s rooms, a guest room/multi-purpose room, a bedroom for us, either an office or an office niche, and of course a bathroom. The guest room isn’t mandatory, it would just be nice. The rest is a must.