Floor plan multigenerational house conversion old barn

2021-02-12 22:30:31

The fundamental problem in the upper floor:
Your dashed line, the 2-meter line, which is correspondingly on the other side, shows you about 40? sqm of area that is over 2 meters high, in the middle of the house (ridge).
If the roof pitch is even lower now (I estimate 38 degrees), then it becomes a one/two meter strip across the entire width. And that without any beams anywhere which still support the roof structure.
The staircase MUST come out in the middle there, the rooms upstairs have a standing strip and otherwise a cavern...
You will hardly, or very little, be able to realize real or permitted living space according to the state building code. The second escape route can only be dreamed of.
Basically, on the south side either numerous dormers or one long continuous dormer must be realized. Then three children's rooms will fit there. On the north side then bathroom, office, and storage room.
Therefore, the main wall that separates the staircase from the living space must be placed almost at the beam first, since the wall is also present up there. That reduces the open-plan room...
I will tackle the bathroom task again tomorrow... I already have an idea ;)

I don't quite understand this yet. At least, the ridge of the barn does not run above the apartment; attached is a section and floor plan. The dimensions are not quite correct there because the outer wall has not yet been drawn recessed inward. Just so much: the apartment or the north wall of the apartment is still in front of the ridge of the barn, which only reaches its roof peak further north. But maybe I am now missing your point...

An office is not necessary on the upper floor. Only the bathroom unfortunately must have a window somehow and therefore reach the south side. I always thought we could easily fit three children's rooms and a bathroom there. With a different staircase, I once thought of something like this (see preview image), although I was still thinking of an office or similar...

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I wish you a nice weekend & of course I would be very happy to receive more input.

2021-02-12 22:38:10

The ridge of the barn does not run above the apartment at least, attached is still a cross-section or floor plan. The measurements are not entirely correct since the exterior wall has not yet been set back inward on the drawing. Just so much about that: the apartment or the north wall of the apartment is still in front of the ridge of the barn, which only reaches its roof peak further north. But maybe now I'm talking past you...

Ah... yes.., ok. I was always a bit confused. Ok, then you have space up north at the top. But that's secondary for the stairs and living area since a) the stairs would move too far back (north in the house) b) no window can be realized there. We don't want to make the hallway on the ground floor fancy but rather create nice, livable, spacious living areas on the ground floor. That means: move the stairs forward.

2021-02-12 23:44:14

All clear (with regard to the last post).

A short addendum regarding the attic. Dormers are conceivable – I myself could well imagine a shed dormer across the entire south side, so that all rooms benefit from it – although I cannot yet estimate the costs for it.

Have a nice weekend and I wish you plenty of sunshine!

2021-02-13 08:35:15

If I look at the section, then you can make a shed dormer up to the knee wall. The upper edge is at 2.8 m. The rafters are then laid on the partition walls. But is that enough to bear the additional loads of the roof conversion for living space? A structural engineer definitely needs to be involved here. The shed dormer will certainly help to make the roof viable. You have the bedroom downstairs, so you can reduce one room on the upper floor. Then the rooms are wider and you don’t need the depth. Then the hallway with stairs can move to the south. The stairs across are not a good solution. Should the interior construction be solid? KS stone? Concrete ceiling? I like the idea of the skylight in front of the knee wall. I would also recommend that above the hallway on the upper floor. Such a conversion won’t be cheap.

2021-02-13 08:43:48

Reading deeper into it is too time-consuming for me right now, but I want to wish you and everyone good luck and am happy that there are always such projects that use old stock to create beautiful living space. I find that alone valuable and enriching for everyone :)

2021-02-13 10:15:31

You do have the bedroom downstairs, so you could reduce one room upstairs. Then the rooms would be wider and you wouldn't need the depth.

There are three children's rooms plus a guest room/office. The rooms upstairs are not that narrow and long - the left one reaches 2.99, and if you actually raise the knee wall to a reasonable height, the room shortens and no longer feels so long. The support beams can remain visible from the ground floor. I now have a daylight bathroom, daylight bedroom on the ground floor. I have a huge room at the back free as a utility room... I am now going to enlarge the living room a bit, enlarge the pantry (under the stairs), and try to get daylight into the guest WC as well. It's going well :)

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