Detached house ~ 150 sqm for 5 people

mhm but a higher knee wall can't be combined with the dormers, right? Yes, the space upstairs is really limited. That's also a 45° pitch, isn't it? What ceiling heights are you working with? Would the section drawing be helpful for you?

I always assume the following for sketches: 2.90m floor-to-floor height 2.60m ceiling height 0.30m ceiling + floor My program is really an old thing. Maybe it’s not possible to represent all that well and in reality it’s less bad. Maybe I also miscalculated. But I would talk to the architect again about the ridge. Maybe he can also give you a 3D insight. Or at least have the 2m line drawn in on the 3rd floor!

Here I don't just have to convince myself but also my wife... and most probably everyone knows that "practical" as an argument doesn't always work ^^

We know this here. It’s hard to let go of a design. For me the initial draft is simply messed up on the upper floor. The bedroom only works if you remove the pseudo-dressing wall. Then the storage room has to become the dressing room. I don’t see it any other way. In my opinion, the stair exit against the wall remains as is. I don’t see how a curve should improve anything there. The narrow children’s room without a dormer almost feels like a storage room. If you deduct the slants here, are we at 10m² according to DIN or where? Personally, I also don’t like the long way to the kitchen on the ground floor. It was already said that it leads through the chill corner. But the spaciousness on the ground floor is nice – you have to give it that. Then the question is whether that outweighs the mess upstairs. Especially the sizes of the children’s rooms speak against it. It’s always important to me that all rooms work first. After that I look for luxury. You could just pick out the best bits everywhere and then tell the architect: “Go for it!” He’d be happy about that.

Here you can clearly see that if the bed only extends about 20 to 30 cm to the left into the space between a room height of 2 m and a room height of 110 cm, even a person who is 170 cm tall will get headaches.

I would really reconsider Kahos's layout.

We know this here. It's hard to let go of a draft.

yes my wife loves the draft, but the criticism points are valid and I will definitely initiate a discussion about it.

You can also simply pick the best bits everywhere and then tell the architect: "Go ahead!". He will be happy.

that's a good one

I would really reconsider Kaho’s layout once again.

definitely.

Again about the dormers. If I raise the knee wall I either have the option to "place" the dormer windows on the roof, which would result in smaller windows, or I can "sink" the windows into the roof, which would result in longer windowsills. I imagine it like in the picture:

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Is there anything speaking against realizing the dormers like this:

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That way I would be independent of the knee wall, right? Hm but then the bay window with the dining nook wouldn’t work anymore...

You can clearly see one thing in the section: If you extend the dormers almost from east to west anyway, you might as well build up the upper floor walls to 2.20m and then put on a flatter roof. What is the price difference there?

Is there any reason not to realize the dormers like this: [ATTACH alt="efh-150qm-für-5-koepfe-336200-2.jpg"]36693[/ATTACH]

No, but that is the gable variant, which is supposedly much more expensive.

yes, my wife loves the design, but the criticisms are justified and I will definitely initiate a discussion about it.

You have gotten used to it. Nothing more. Everything that is familiar is somehow liked... everything else is new and strange.

that's good

No, that's really good! That's what an architect is for.