Detached house ~ 150 sqm for 5 people

One could swap the bathroom and the northern children's room on the upper floor and shift the walls a bit so that the room sizes fit. Then there probably wouldn’t be any problem with the wastewater either. But I really like the new proposal already!

What I would adjust at first impulse:

- On the ground floor, the entrance to the office at a right angle instead of 45°. Then I would have more wall space for the TV corner.
- Put the windbreak back in. The door to the utility room then where the dresser is.
- Swap the bathroom and the northern children's room on the upper floor.

But I would count that under personal preferences. Yes, the living area is close to the hallway to the kitchen again, but I think that’s exactly what my wife values. Maybe a passage between the fireplace and the kitchen unit could help there?

Even after a lot of thought, I can’t imagine the staircase. Why is there a “slope” in the utility room in the architect’s design and none in the kitchen in yours?

How am I supposed to imagine the staircase? Will there then be a slope visible in the kitchen? I can't quite imagine how the staircase is supposed to look?

This is the staircase on the ground floor:


It's not a landing but a normal quarter turn. Nothing sticks out into the kitchen.
Here are the dimensions:



The staircase to the attic starts slightly offset and then curves at the top so that the staircase opening in the attic doesn’t become too long. Maybe it will just be stacked one above the other so that you can better reach the window in the hallway. In any case, there is enough space. The architect can calculate that more easily with his programs.

Does such a pointed roof have to be on the extension? Would it be cheaper to build it flat?

Flat roofs are usually more expensive than pitched ones. But maybe dormers would work. My program can’t do those either. The architect will have to check that.

I would not recommend swapping the children's rooms. The bathroom is deliberately placed there because it can be narrower in that spot. As soon as you change that, you end up with a huge bathroom or 2 small children's rooms and one huge one. I don't find it so dramatic that one child only has northwest exposure. Doppelflügelfenster will simply be installed there. They always provide brightness because of their height. Additionally, all the children's rooms have a gable window that you can comfortably step up to.

It's just not a podium but a normal 1/4. Nothing sticks out into the kitchen there.

Oh, so you go straight up and arrive at the top facing south, then turn 90 degrees and enter the hallway. Right? And the same applies to the attic.

I wouldn't recommend swapping the children's rooms. The bathroom is deliberately placed there - because it can be narrower there. Once you change that, you'll have a huge bathroom or two small children's rooms and one huge one.

I'll just take this along to the architect and he can come up with something ^^ Concept-wise, this already comes very close to our wish. Thank you very much again!

Even if the living room is once again the passage here... but we will have to die one death.

Yes, if the woman absolutely wants it that way, then you walk through there.

- On the ground floor, the office entrance at a right angle instead of 45°. Then I would have more wall for the TV corner.

Then the living room becomes really small. At the moment it is 4.10m - that is optimum. If I move the wall, it’s only 3.75m. That is rather cramped for 5 people. That this door is a real bottleneck you can also see in the preliminary design. The architect only made an 80cm passage there – a sign of desperation. So I really wouldn’t do that – unless you are building bigger.


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The chimney with the fireplace at that spot is of course also something you always run around. If I make a passage to the kitchen, it already takes quite a corner away from the bathroom. It’s not a drama yet, but it’s slowly becoming a nuisance. How important is that thing? You can also save money quickly there.... :P

Yes, if the woman absolutely wants it that way, then you walk through there.

Currently, it is her wish to do it that way, and I will first try to find a compromise.
With the sliding door in the kitchen as in your latest version, the matter is already somewhat eased. Since we want to put a refrigerator in the utility room anyway, the "beverage supply" when the kids have visitors could also be arranged through that...

Yes, the entrance to the office is a narrow spot. In the original version, only an arch is planned there and no door. Let's see what the architect can do about that.

Thanks for immediately including the vestibule *.* How big is the utility room there now?

So I already really like the ground floor *.*

I'll put pressure on the architect for the upper floor... he should earn his money too