Detached house ~ 150 sqm for 5 people

  • Erstellt am 2019-07-22 09:29:52

ypg

2019-07-23 11:47:03
  • #1


Me too

I'm out when it comes to dormers! In my opinion, you can't slap that together as a layman. And certainly, there are rules in the development plan regarding roofs and dormers.
 

ypg

2019-07-23 11:48:54
  • #2
First, clean up the floor plan from the errors. Then we can take a look at how the dormers might mess things up a bit or improve them.
 

Sparfuchs77

2019-07-23 12:07:55
  • #3


- In the end, I have to see which points I agree with my wife on and which compromises the ground floor is worth to us (her :P). Ultimately, swapping the kitchen and living room is a matter of taste.

- A higher knee wall would already ease the children's rooms, the attic, and the storage/closet a bit.

- My first attempt at "hinting" to swap the kitchen and living room didn't really meet with enthusiasm ^^ Today I'll recreate all three variants in Sweet Home and show her. Then we'll make a pros and cons list and see what comes out of it.

- I would find moving the stairs to get a straight entrance quite good though.

I think if we have the floor plans in front of us tonight and I’ve been to our builder tomorrow, we’ll know more already. But I think some compromise decisions will be necessary. I also don’t want to force my opinion (swap kitchen, move stairs, etc. pp) on my wife at all costs.
 

Niloa

2019-07-23 13:12:14
  • #4
I didn't find it when quickly skimming through, but what does the development plan stipulate? I think if you make it 2 full floors, there won’t be any problems with the many rooms upstairs. That can't be more expensive than dozens of dormers, can it?
 

11ant

2019-07-23 14:14:33
  • #5
Tell me where we can find the development plan (links are not desired here, so better in the format "Posemuckel No. 258 in Wiesengrund" or something - you have a PM). With such an atypical roof, I strongly suspect that there are regulations that inspire the architect to such an extraordinary idea.

In the floor plan, I didn’t even notice the "dormers" at first, nor the knee wall. It is indeed a knee wall, and also according to my interpretation it would be 75 cm (as numerous development plans imagine it if the house is supposed to be "Franconian"). And normally I say that this knee wall height is rubbish because I expect a knee wall to fully substitute a dwarf wall; and I also see the most practical knee wall heights to be in the range between 100 and 130 cm (namely the bed knee wall). Then you can put facade windows in the knee wall and roof windows in the roof slope.

But here it is quite different: one is content with the 75 cm "vacuum cleaner knee wall," constructively clean up to this point without doubling the knee wall with a dwarf wall - but then comes the catch: the roof is "pulled in front of" the roof projections, which together with the low knee wall prevents reasonable facade windows from being placed in the knee wall. Instead - and this is where I say no capable architect would do this without reason - dormers are set on the knee wall. You’ve really fooled me here, because without the section drawing I would almost have been tricked into seeing "dormers" just from the elevation. But here they are dormers with a shed roof - hardly more atypical, and basically you don’t do such a thing without reason. In this respect, one would actually have to assume that classic dormers (with gable, then actually "returns") would be excluded here not only for cost reasons but also because of a reason coming from the development plan. However, you are right about the bat dormer; that would clearly exceed the shown solution financially and in terms of effort (but would be rather northern German).

Has a carpenter already given his opinion on how complex he considers this roof construction? - after all, the windows can apparently be made without changing the rafter spacing; however, that also gives the house a strong 1950s neighborhood house flair. From the outside alone, I would not classify the finished house as a new build but as a renovation object with a modern front door.
 

11ant

2019-07-23 14:23:11
  • #6
... or not: I can’t write to you, check your settings, I can’t even see the info about which federal state you are building in, etc. ...
 

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