Installation of a gas heating system in new construction 2023/2024

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chand1986

2023-04-30 08:33:01
  • #1
One wonders how exactly societal discourse can function when people don’t even base themselves on the same facts regarding proven matters. Basically not at all. Repetition doesn’t make it right eventually either. The question of how masks could be ineffective despite all contrary evidence has not been clarified by a single serious study. All that is known is that they do indeed work. How much exactly they achieved in the field is not well quantifiable, I had explained why. Anyone who claims the exact opposite is allowed to do so but has nothing but whispers from a special bubble to rely on. Why would anyone do something like that? I can ask: Why are you doing that?
 

Bookstar87

2023-04-30 09:17:04
  • #2
I believe we are very close in our viewpoints. For me, the mask mandate was not a sensible measure. Voluntary use is great. Almost everyone had Covid, despite masks. Because preventing infection permanently simply doesn’t work. You can postpone it into the future. That can be personally useful in the short term, or for the system, so it doesn’t get overwhelmed. But I don’t achieve the latter with a mask mandate. There are far better measures for that (prophylaxis and capacity building instead of reduction). This is important to me because I also see here in the forum how deeply the narratives have taken root and how little information reached the population that didn’t inform themselves intensively through research, but only watched the news. Best news of the day by the way: the Greens down to only 14% and the sun is shining! Have a nice day!
 

Snowy36

2023-04-30 09:22:56
  • #3
If you deal intensively with how the effect works and is supposed to work, then you understand that the immune system is kept on its toes … in some more, in others less … and when RSV comes, the body has nothing left to oppose it.
 

chand1986

2023-04-30 09:58:02
  • #4


You stumble over your own feet right at the beginning. You cannot have both:

Either masks shift infections in time. Then a mask mandate inevitably relieves the system because it spreads the number of infections over time more strongly.
Or the mask mandate actually cannot relieve the system. Then that must mean that it also cannot cause time delays of individual infections, because otherwise there would inevitably be relief.

Again: you cannot have both at the same time. Due to simple logic. But even more confusing from you I find this here:

What exactly do you want to say with that? I read it as if voluntarily worn masks work, but mandatory worn masks do not!?
That can not be what you mean, right?

But for those who pursued self-research, there were many pitfalls. Ever had the idea that you could have gotten stuck on one of those?

What false stuff was spread online by people with Dr. titles (real and fake) about the supposed (non)function of PCR tests up to chlorine bleach as a medication that governments are withholding from us: The self-researching person has to classify all that themselves, if in doubt without good methodological training in scientific procedures. There were publications in seedy journals that were only distinguishable from real scientific work if you are professionally familiar with the scientific field. All freely available for self-research. And - rightly so! - ignored by most media.

I see it differently. My position is that the mask mandate was a very effective means to dampen the temporal progression of infections. Yours is the opposite.
 

Buschreiter

2023-04-30 10:04:40
  • #5
Oops... I'll quickly check the thread title again o_O :p
 

kati1337

2023-04-30 10:07:49
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The discussion is pointless. There is a small group of people who base their opinions on sources that are demonstrably false, presumably to feel "elitist," not to belong to the mainstream. That’s how conspiracy things have always worked; there is (interesting) research and documentaries on this as well.

We live in a world where practically all of humanity’s accumulated knowledge is just one mouse click away. Yet groups arise in this time who claim the Earth is flat and mean it seriously. If someone wants to believe nonsense to be different, unfortunately you don’t change that with factual argumentation.
 
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