Installation of a gas heating system in new construction 2023/2024

  • Erstellt am 2023-04-11 14:47:10

guckuck2

2023-05-05 21:08:54
  • #1


That is, of course, sensationalist nonsense again. It is true that refrigerants are improving and are fundamentally climate-impacting if they leak from the cooling circuit. Of course, they normally do not. That is one reason why these works may only be carried out by persons with a refrigeration certificate. It is true that refrigerants are evolving, becoming more efficient and less harmful to the climate in case of leakage. Yes, outdated refrigerants will eventually be banned for retrofitting/refilling. But this does not matter at all in the closed circuit of a heat pump, just as little as with your refrigerator (no, Mr. Habeck will not be collecting it from you soon, don’t worry).



Seriously? Such a tiny amount scares you but a gas pipe into your house and constant combustion indoors is no problem, right? Hot news, Grandma Erna has 3000 liters of fuel in the basement and still hasn’t exploded.

Please mark satire as such, thank you
 

Bookstar87

2023-05-05 21:10:15
  • #2
This nonsense with the climate madness will soon be over because no one is participating and we are completely ruining our economy. Even I, as a great enemy of the Green eco-fascists, am currently shocked by the extent of the mafia structures of the Graichen clan. The amount of cronyism present overshadows previous scandals. Habeck will not be in office for much longer. The poll numbers of the Greens are in free fall, the AfD soon nationwide in second place. Gives hope.
 

Bausparfuchs

2023-05-05 21:46:28
  • #3
That is, of course, sensationalist nonsense again.

Sure, sure!

Safety concerns regarding propane: heating engineer warns of “highly explosive” heat pumps.

And then there is the problem with refrigerants. Both the federal government and the EU are currently considering which refrigerants should be banned in the future. But this could also mean the end for some heat pumps. Propane could then be used as a replacement. But Gentzen is cautious here.

Reason: “Propane currently raises safety concerns.” He himself recently got information on the subject at a refrigeration technical school and was surprised by the findings. “I underestimated the dangers,” admits the heating expert. The substance is “highly explosive,” he explains further. At the factory, he was told: “We expect houses to blow up, but there doesn’t have to be a sign from us on it. Let the others do it first.”

So this doesn’t come from me, but there are quite a few other critics.

Vonovia also has problems with some of their heat pumps. And here too, who would have thought it, the capacity of the power grids is simply not sufficient.

The rental company Vonovia cannot connect 70 percent of its completed heat pumps to the electricity grid. How can that be? And is this all just a diversion tactic?

And the photovoltaic systems are also not connected to the grid. Why do you think? Because there are no sufficient grids and grid access points. Or to put it simply: although we have paid the highest electricity prices in the world for many years, we have a decrepit and outdated power grid.
This is not nonsense but the bitter reality.

We no longer even have enough medication for our children because we throw money at just about everything. But when it comes to our children, suddenly it’s lacking. The main thing is that millions of vaccine doses are available. But we don’t have enough cough syrup or antibiotics. Although, according to green logic, we don’t need children anymore anyway, as they cause way too much CO².

Are people all sick?

Germany is developing into the idiot state of this world. And at a horrendous speed.
 

chand1986

2023-05-05 22:03:10
  • #4
What? Propane is explosive? Stop it! All those propane gas cylinders for grills and campers. Millions in use. Worldwide. EVERYTHING will blow up. Soon. No, now! If only we had known that before…
 

sysrun80

2023-05-05 22:04:00
  • #5
Really? Houses go up because of a little propane? Awesome!

Then better like this: A 55-year-old man was critically injured in a gas explosion in Twistringen (Landkreis Diepholz). He had inhaled from a camping gas cylinder and then lit a cigarette.

I'm more "afraid" of such neighbors with a tendency for the Darwin Award
 

sysrun80

2023-05-05 22:10:00
  • #6
And because statements like these from the "cold school" drive me crazy:

1. This only concerns systems that are completely in-house, if(!) at all.
2. How many kilos of propane is that? People store gas cartridges and kilo bottles and grill like crazy. But as soon as a few grams circulate in a system, panic breaks out? I read something about 60 grams per kWh. I have more on a camping stove – and that in a metal can! That's complete nonsense!

I can only imagine that the panic is caused by their "special training": If you can casually handle propane/butane at home for grilling, what speaks against connecting a heat pump yourself?
 

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