City villa floor plan 160 sqm, without basement - Your opinions on that?

  • Erstellt am 2018-05-10 02:46:16

Patkia

2018-05-10 12:57:54
  • #1
Wow, completely dissected
But that’s exactly why I made the post. Thanks already for the comments.

By the way, construction is in BB, municipality of Schönefeld.

So, first about the costs:

(Added later: I just realized I might have misread/filled out the first post. According to our contract for work, the house costs about 230,000 and including the base slab almost 240,000. Without having all numbers in my head, about another 40,000 euros should be planned for all additional costs (excluding purchase incidental costs and own services), sample selections, etc.)

We searched and negotiated a lot.
The 240,000 euros are purely for the house and the garage’s base slab. This is also contractually fixed including the finishes. Of course, we also got really independent references so we are sure that everything is correct.
Outdoor facilities, the chimney itself, filter system are not included and have a separate budget.

But the porch roof, sliding doors, lift-slide door system and what I described are already included in the house price.
The roof terrace has to meet certain requirements, but on the one hand, we have already inquired and on the other hand, it’s not a priority for us at the moment. That might come in a few years or not.

Own services are basically mainly planned additional features that I want. Something like smart home etc. But it’s not a must, so it can be left out depending on finances.

Otherwise, we still have some time until construction, meaning I might try to carry out most of the site preparations, e.g. excavation and disposal, without the construction company. I know a few people who could probably do it much cheaper than the company.

The painters and remaining tile works outside the construction scope will also be done by us or friends (tile trade, tiler).
I have absorbed information for months from friends who have built houses, internet forums, financiers, house construction companies, etc., so I hope and think that the financial planning will be sufficient. Our advisor also placed great value on ensuring we have enough leeway and considered everything plannable.

So, now again about the floor plans:

The niche on the ground floor is actually supposed to be a small cloakroom.
I almost expected the issue with the staircase. I also think that a half-turned staircase would make better use of the space?
The pantry is 1 meter deep, so with 30 cm shelves on both sides, there would be a 40 cm aisle. Okay, that’s narrow but the idea was to have as much storage as possible and waste as little space as possible. A freezer basically doesn’t need to go in there. At least that is not planned so far. If kitchen furniture is supposed to be placed on the pantry access wall and the access is via a cabinet, you no longer have the problem with the door space opening inward. (Example picture attached)
Opening the pantry to the utility room is actually a good idea. The idea of separating it was only because then you have more walls to put things against.
On the other hand, you can of course go directly from the garage with groceries to the storage area and into the kitchen.

Yes, I also find the layout in the utility room quite unfavorable, but access from the garage is undisputed. And one wall of the utility room has to face the front, otherwise 1,000 euros additional cost for the water connection will apply.

We like the open flair of an open living/dining/kitchen area but I cook a lot and just can’t stand it when all kitchen smells spread unhindered throughout the entire living area.
Therefore, we decided to separate the kitchen from the rest of the area with an inside-guided sliding door. I’m aware that it’s not absolutely airtight but it should help immensely to primarily lead the kitchen smells outside rather than into the living room.
But okay, that’s one more opinion backing us up to put the kitchen back at the front.

I have already furnished the living room once and it is actually quite compact. So if we ever want a 4.50 meters wide sectional sofa, it will be rather tight. I would have liked to make it a bit wider but then it conflicted with the hallway and other conditions. As described in the title above. We’re really stuck right now. Every idea we have leads back to the same floor plan.

I had said that the upper floor plan doesn’t match the ground floor. But it’s just that I found the floor plan and we both immediately said it fits almost exactly our ideas. So 3 rooms, a walk-in closet through the bedroom, bathroom accessible through the walk-in closet. That’s why I included the floor plan to show you the direction for upstairs.
Unfortunately, I do not have time right now to draw and dimension the floor plan in detail.
What exactly is meant by privacy in the bathroom due to the two doors? Because of the noise level passing through 2 doors or what exactly?
Access to the bathroom only through the bedroom is definitely not acceptable for us.

The guest WC is also planned very compact to offer everything you need but not waste space. I saw a bathroom among acquaintances that is completely sufficient and even offers a little less space. But of course I don’t have those exact dimensions. The design is similar. But the hallway can also be smaller. The main point is that it’s not too cramped and above all still has enough light.
I hate going to visit somewhere and standing in a small, narrow, dark hallway, greeting awkwardly and having to turn on the light to take off shoes during daytime.

The bay window is really just for optics. We have also considered whether it might only cause unnecessary planning problems and extra construction costs due to its small size. We might possibly leave it out and instead put a color accent on the outside.

Okay, enough written, that’s it from my side for now. I hope I have answered everything you noted.
 

haydee

2018-05-10 13:33:39
  • #2
The offer sounds ambitious. Please check the construction performance description again, especially regarding the client-side. I also wonder how an offer is created when it is not yet clear what the house will be like.

40,000 euros for garage, floor coverings, wall, outdoor area, roof terrace, incidental construction costs is nothing.

Everything is open here, cooking odors do not spread throughout the house or even in the open space.

Either you make the kitchen smaller or move dining into the kitchen. The dead space in the current kitchen is missing in the living room.
 

Patkia

2018-05-10 13:49:44
  • #3
Yes, I know the offer sounds ambitious. But as I said, we have had several confirmations from different sides that we are well advised with the construction company.

During our search, we had several construction companies with different approaches. Either you say what you want, then a floor plan is designed, and finally the house is built around it, and you see what kind of space or costs arise. Or the other approach was that we name a budget, look at what size and features we can realize with it, and then plan our floor plan accordingly.
We just chose a company with the latter approach.
This is quite straightforward. As long as the basic/living area is not changed, we can rearrange inside however we want before the building application is submitted.

And sorry, I forgot to mention that the garage is not included in this 40,000 euros. The budget for it will be covered with our own funds, while we receive all the building materials at very good bulk buyer conditions.
And as I said, the roof terrace is not financially considered at all for now. That is only a plan for sometime in the future. The preparation for it is only made in the form that a terrace door (with fall protection) is planned in the bedroom, which otherwise will simply be used as a floor-to-ceiling window.

what exactly do you mean by this sentence?

 

haydee

2018-05-10 14:17:04
  • #4
You wanted a closed kitchen because of the smells. In my place everything is open and you don't smell anything. Sure, it sometimes smells a bit but it doesn't smell unpleasant. In the old apartment, you could smell much more despite having a closed kitchen.

Include the dining area in the kitchen.
 

Patkia

2018-05-10 14:24:14
  • #5
Oh, "here" meant, at your place. Hm, is that so? I fry a lot and very hot. Fish is also often included. Just as you apparently know it too, I have the problem that the apartment smells strongly and for a long time of fat and frying aromas (even after cleaning). We also thought of a separate dining area but also this counter in the kitchen for space to prepare food, sit with friends while cooking and then also, for example, quick breakfast with potential children.
 

haydee

2018-05-10 14:51:07
  • #6
Yes exactly, and that is gone. It's either due to the better recirculation hood or the controlled residential ventilation. It's no longer a problem. If you cook with friends, that speaks even more in favor of fully integrating the dining area into the kitchen. Kitchen parties are better anyway.

A dining area will be omitted.

Have you ever tried moving water crates or using a step ladder in such a tight space in the pantry?
 

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