City villa floor plan 160 sqm, without basement - Your opinions on that?

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kbt09

2018-09-17 11:57:38
  • #1
Now again the 8x12.5 m with the kitchen on the left side of the plan with east/south windows.

The utility room has now become very small and really without external access. Nevertheless, there should still be room for 150 cm of shelving about 20/25 cm deep ... e.g. shoes not currently in use, etc.

The staircase has been turned and the space under the stairs from the kitchen/dining area is used as storage for supplies, vacuum cleaner, mop.

The upper floor has remained almost the same, only the chimney position has moved.

In the overview now also the 75 cm on the right side of the plan from the garage.



 

kaho674

2018-09-17 13:25:21
  • #2

Yes, it has indeed become quite tiny now.
I think the limit of what’s feasible is slowly reached at 99m². Utility room and office and shower and pantry and, and, and.

Regarding the draft from the OP:
Ground floor:
The entrance area is practically nonexistent. Do you want to squeeze past each other in the hallway all your life? Where should shoes and clothes for 4 people go? In that tiny closet at the entrance?

Try moving the shower downstairs to the left opposite the sink, so you don’t have to jump over the toilet to get in.
Pantry is nonsense. By size, it’s nothing more than a built-in closet. Better to just put a large tall cabinet in the kitchen - done.
Paths under the stairs are bad, especially when approaching the stairs. Accordingly, the door from the living room to the hallway opposite the stairs can be removed.

A straight staircase with 2.70m ceiling height has a length of at least 3.80m (which is already rather short; that’s 16 steps with only 25cm tread and 18.75cm rise). With 15 steps, you end up at 20cm rise - that’s the upper limit of the DIN norm and no one builds that voluntarily. I only count 13 steps here. How long is your staircase?

Upper floor:
Thanks to the straight staircase and its layout, you now have a mega hallway that is still cramped. The corners in the children’s rooms to ease the problem may make it a bit more pleasant but overall only make the plan more absurd.
Bathroom is too narrow - you don’t want to relax in the bathtub here but just get out quickly.

Dressing room is poorly placed because you have to run past the sleeper and wake them up every time.

The laundry room is not really a room. It’s more a closet that is also hard to furnish. If there’s only the washing machine, okay. But even with a laundry basket it’s already tight, and any kind of drying rack is hopeless. Only dryer and washing machine stacked works.

To me, this all looks pretty botched.
 

Patkia

2018-09-17 14:35:15
  • #3


The entrance area could really get a bit tight. Maybe the staircase needs to be moved up a bit and the kitchen/guest room wall including the entrance door moved slightly to the left. Jackets and shoes should be stored up front in this area or even under the front part of the stairs. I think there are some nice diagonal solutions for that.



Thanks, good tip.



Do you mean putting up a wall and only entering through the kitchen? Or leaving it completely open?
I tried both options and honestly didn’t like how they looked from the interior perspective.



There are only 13 steps because I can’t enter the number of steps in the program. The staircase is now, if I remember correctly, about 405cm long.



So far it looked feasible, but we will definitely check again to what extent the heights fit. But maybe your assessment (hopefully) was "only" based on the wrong number of steps in the program.



That’s why we were also thinking of trying a quarter-turn staircase with largely the same arrangement otherwise. I just haven’t had time for that yet.

The fact that it is open towards the bottom of the plan should remain, since we don’t want to give up natural light in the hallway.



I think we feel differently about that. Our current bathroom is similarly long and narrow, and yet we still feel comfortable in there.



We talked about that and don’t see it as a problem already. The only problem we currently have is the light, which we will avoid by having a door WITHOUT glass (unlike what we currently have).



The laundry room is unfortunately inconvenient but isn’t supposed to waste much space. The dimensions of tower drying racks have already been checked, and definitely two will fit. Even with one rack down in the alcove, you can still put an ironing board up top. Otherwise, shelves above the washing machine up to the ceiling have proven effective for us. There are also great cabinet systems with integrated laundry baskets.


Thanks, I’ll discuss that with my girlfriend tonight.
Although the utility room is indeed very small and the living room also a bit inconvenient because it’s tight and the fireplace is right next to the TV wall. But as I said, otherwise it looks very interesting at first glance.
 

kbt09

2018-09-17 15:12:37
  • #4
... you don’t really want to iron in this laundry room, do you? If the washing machines and 2 laundry towers are there, it gets tight with the ironing board. And ironing is kind of a tedious chore anyway. Somehow ironing goes hand in hand with watching TV or something similar .

you reply

Uh .. which light? Light in the dressing room?
But aside from that, I actually find dressing room and then bedroom more practical, especially also for daily tasks like putting washed laundry back in the closet, quickly changing the t-shirt because you have a meeting with a teacher or something similar.


Fireplace next to the TV wall definitely bothers less than fireplace only 1 meter away from the table seating area. Because that gets hot and the armchair in my plan can then be moved a bit away .

The utility room is small, but relatively usable.

Also think about storage space upstairs. I mention things like bed linen for everyone, towels, suitcases, bags, etc.
 

11ant

2018-09-17 15:25:59
  • #5
You mean in the sense of "Interior walls all you can eat"? *grins*
 

kaho674

2018-09-17 15:36:32
  • #6
What are laundry towers and how big are they?
 

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