Floor plan single-family house 1 full floor technology and daylight

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klabauter8614

2024-09-22 14:13:53
  • #1
Yes well, in case of a change the new architect would have to have everything redrawn anyway, that would probably be redundant, but it is probably part of the quality. At the same time, we still have to do the [Wärmeschutznachweis] and later the [Statik], but these will be outsourced.
 

11ant

2024-09-22 19:30:02
  • #2

No, why? – when I once wanted to become an architect, that was still the case. Today we are 40 years ahead; now the architect hands over the files to his successor through the client. That is called CAD. I know and can still do it analog, but a modern architect does not work in a technology museum. The problem remains: the file formats cannot encode the thoughts that led to the planning being “this way and not another.” Therefore, they cannot be conveyed with the data carrier either.

Structural engineer is a different field of study, and the thermal protection proof is completed faster by the energy consultant as a specialist, so both being “outsourced” is the rule. However, the thermal protection proof has nothing to do with the design of the heating circuits – so separate intellectual paternities for this are unproblematic.

Since both depend on details and vary even more with the construction method, it comes back to bite you here that you did not make a key decision before the approval planning (actually even before the design planning). The best time to make this key decision is during the dough resting phase. Now you “have to” live with a masonry house (which does not necessarily have to be bad, but it should have been a realization instead of a self-binding consequence). Furthermore, you chose a wall assembly where it would have been better to have the structural builder already on board.
I have been explaining this for seven and a half years, but some clients still drive in third gear (missing punctuation emoticons).
 

klabauter8614

2024-09-23 16:25:18
  • #3
The construction method is pretty clear, here almost exclusively stone is used. Almost all planners have stated that they can plan in wood, but extremely rarely and only with the awareness of the consequences for the construction. It was also left open at the beginning, but there were so many reasons against wood (from resale to selection of construction companies) that it was quickly settled. We also determined the wall structure quite early; this is a new development area where construction is already underway. We were able to exchange ideas with the builders and directly see who builds how, and most of it is with facing bricks and double-shell construction, only occasionally plaster and [WDVS]. In addition, almost 40% of all single-family houses in the village come from this planner; the companies here know him. We are not worried about that, just that most builders let the general contractors handle everything themselves after performance phase 4.

I also have the CAD files; there is nothing else in them except the plan. So that will require a lot of mental familiarization time for another planner, that is clear. For me, however, high-quality work takes precedence over sloppy simplistic plans, and I predict that the level of elaboration and communication will not improve much in the next phase.
 

11ant

2024-09-23 20:24:52
  • #4

That sounds like "peace to prejudices and half-knowledge," followed by uninhibited empiricism for the specific project.

Whatever the "consequences for the construction" are supposed to be. I’ve experienced a lot with architects, just not (i.e. "almost never") a true "ambidextrous talent." Most are stone planners, the wood builders are mostly ideologically wood-centric. And then there is the current generation of "digital natives," for whom (not only) the wall construction is a black box. They blindly trust whatever the U-value calculator spits out, often with fantasy measurements, and usually quite weak in construction management ("after the approval stamp, the flood" or responsibility of mostly the general contractor). Most are not companions from the first idea to moving in; they leave this claim to colleagues from one and a half generations before them.
One can and should keep the construction method open until right at the edge between design phase 2 and design phase 3, and not a jot before or after. Design phase 3 should be started with a clarified construction method—however as a result, not due to neglecting an option.

Fundamental and concrete (also regarding dimensions) wall structure are two different pairs of shoes, and I see you now practically fixed with the companies familiar to the planner. Which is a pity, even if one of them might be a real expert.

If the client goes to the general contractor without supervision, that is naturally the case; I see little hope for positive outliers there either. The "necessary architectural services" end with the approval stamp; only (if at all, probably today the rule, statics and heat demand calculation must be submitted later) formwork and reinforcement plans follow. The installers will already have drywall boards and silicone guns on their ammo belts; much will be shifted onto the executors. "Design phase 5 without design phase 5"—no, here I really don’t know whether I should keep laughing or praying. But you are probably of legal age. But no matter if you come to me or which colleague, none of us have immediate time just because some only come bleeding for preventive care. If the expert has to come with blue lights, it’s too late for any planning.

That didn’t sound like that so far.

What are sloppy simplistic plans? – I see detailed plans from your planner with sloppiness way before the comma: positioning and division of tasks between connection and technical-room gadgetry remained dangerously diffuse not on the drawing but on the conceptual level. In the end, one’s heart must spontaneously drop to the floor because there’s no room next to the lung (which is only noticed during the contractor’s detailed planning). Take a look around …

… at how improvised it has been in their technical areas.
 

klabauter8614

2024-09-27 09:39:41
  • #5
Cost estimate from the architect currently including 25% buffer:









































100 Building plot - €
200 Preparation and development 4,000.00 €
300 Building structure and construction 454,000.00 €
400 Building - Technical installations 103,000.00 €
500 Outdoor facilities 25,000.00 €
600 Furnishings and artworks 20,000.00 €
700 Incidental construction costs 26,000.00 €
Total 632,000.00 €
 

klabauter8614

2024-09-30 22:00:44
  • #6
That's how I thought as well, until the reason came up that the allowable eaves height of 4.20 m would be exceeded with a greater room height on the upper floor. So with my basic geometry, the eaves height depends on the ridge height and roof pitch and not on the ceiling above the eaves. Have I not understood the definition of eaves height?
 

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