Why building a house almost always costs more than calculated

  • Erstellt am 2016-06-26 22:23:28

Miyagi0815

2016-06-27 15:46:50
  • #1


Probably more like 800 hours. Because professional = amateur x 2
 

ypg

2016-06-27 15:49:01
  • #2
Accordingly changed... unfortunately, I don't have any more characters available... had to shorten it a bit
 

Steffen80

2016-06-27 17:53:33
  • #3
We should make a list of who is over by how much. We haven’t started building yet and current status: +110,000 EUR.

Regards, Steffen
 

toxicmolotof

2016-06-27 18:09:52
  • #4
Pretty much exactly +10% more than planned.
 

T21150

2016-06-27 21:28:24
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A TOP post from YPG!


That's correct - we have not been affected by that yet. But: See building incidental costs


True.


And much more - building incidental costs. I know that all too well.



I "love" these earthworks – how much money I had to sink there. My refinancing “is based” solely on the earthworks + some building incidental costs, but mainly earthworks. Some neighbors were hit even worse. Fell-Bert sometimes has great floors, there is Bergisch slate in it, kind of seam-like. Building a basement there – pure horror (costs).
The approx. 10,000 euros that unexpectedly and uncalculated came for disposal of the excavation I mitigated. LAGA 0. Had a soil survey done. Soil was offered like sour beer, 150 m from me then given away, cost me a truck and one day of skilled labor/driver. 600,-. Without taking action, you have to cough up. I was gasping at the prices charged for the landfill, that was heart-attack-worthy, how expensive it is here. Cheaper landfills would have caused long transport routes. No savings..


We were clear on that – because what was not in the construction service description was listed and calculated. There were no doubts here, anyone who can read and calculate knew what was going on.


True. Best with scaffolding. Or you keep the coffee flowing and the people paint just like that......



Correct – electrical is a nice point. I came up with that idea later too. Did a lot myself then......but right, to point that out. There are thousand-euro traps lurking here.


Went through sample selection including everything well with us via the house manufacturer – it was not cheap, just good value.


I never wanted a house – now I have one anyway.
The money for the basement – where from, I’m just glad it was enough for the detached condominium substitute. A basement is certainly not superfluous. If you don’t have one, a little recipe: rent a van, drive 40 times to the recycling center, throw away everything you haven’t touched for 1-2 years, then consistently follow that principle later, then it works if necessary and also here without a basement with or without. More convenient with one, but the squeaking sound from the account – nope.... not in this life anymore..
 

T21150

2016-06-27 21:29:29
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Yes, I live in social housing. Without floor-level showers. And my house is anything but a showpiece, it is just small, rectangular, and practical. Not beautiful and representative. It doesn't have to please anyone. Well, almost, me and Steffi of course, and we are modest.
We have two bathrooms because I wanted a bathroom with a shower on the ground floor, one for guests, and one for us, with me in particular often using the guest bathroom. The bathroom upstairs is very large, almost impressive. It is a pleasure to go into this main bathroom in the morning. I could have easily sunk another 20k there. However – I resisted. Floor-level showers and all the great things that come with them are the trend. Totally in. But I have no trust in the drains of floor-level showers (simply a personal disturbance feeling, not rationally explainable), and in a timber-frame house a defect in that spot is a major disaster and can cause respectable damage. So normal showers – with a 6 cm high entry into the shower tray. Despite my accident in January, being unable to walk for weeks (months), with crutches and a walker: I showered – without problems, so I will still be able to get into such a shower at 80+. Saved several thousand twice. The other things were chosen timelessly, mid-range standard. However – the bathroom is expensive.


Many haven’t built but believe they know everything. I know that. Don’t let yourself be influenced – do your own thing. Ignore stupid advice, ask professionals, not laymen, thinking for yourself is also allowed.
And it’s good to have a reliable spouse like my Steffi, who pulls with me on one rope. That went smoothly. However, the advisor at the sample choosing center already anonymously told us quite a few stories – he had the time because we were so quick that he won half a day off.


Forget about own work. Eye-wash. Pure nonsense. I also fell for it. I idiot. Until then I considered myself an intelligent person, then suddenly I saw myself as stupid. I wrote that off, it was a mistake.
It only works if you have a 20-person family, skilled, willing, and ready to just ("") invest a lot of time. Such people exist but are rare.
I did what I could. That was a lot, I lived for 10 months just for this place and my job. Without further external help and money, I wouldn’t be in the house today.


You have to buy decent stuff. Good for us: at the sample choosing/the items *all* auxiliary materials were included, generously measured. Big plus. However – around €5,000 for small stuff is definitely gone, you can calculate that, you just need it.


A car can stand outside just fine. Two too. Those things are galvanized, they don’t rust. Car/house door = 5 m, you won’t get wet even in heavy rain...
I also lost the carport – needed money elsewhere. And honestly, I don’t need it. We have almost a natural carport... lucky. I won’t build another one – money thrown away. My driveway is one of the few things I still have to pave and I will still build a garden shed. Neither money nor possibility back then, as the street was only finished last week, heights only known now. Terrace and everything else I wrestled out with a lot of effort, luck, and so on. The driveway is only finished with foundation/compaction (up to 60 tons) and covered with gravel. You could live with that for another 10 years, topping up gravel every few years. The killer is fill and topsoil. Almost 500 tons of that stuff – there were times I nearly hyperventilated. All solved. But I didn’t pay the price others ask for this stuff, I found a good trick in my case.


A lot comes from cash flow, but you have to be careful. After lamps and such, we ate four weeks of black bread with recycled margarine in October 2014.


Fully agree.
 

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