Single-family house (2 floors + residential basement + developed attic) approximately 200 sqm - changes

I have now looked at the floor plans on the first page again. Hope that not much has changed since then. I find the area in the ground floor in front of the stairs cramped. You have made it clear by now that through traffic on the ground floor doesn’t bother you, but with the sofa drawn in like that, it’s hardly possible to get to the stairs, right? 2 children are supposed to be under the roof, and one with your bedroom on one level? What is the dressing area in front of the bathroom for again? Are the children supposed to run naked through the stairwell to their rooms? With three children, there will also be visitors more often, which wouldn’t be so great... Do you want only one shower for 5 people? I didn’t find a second one on the ground floor...

What do you want to hear?

- Budget will be nothing
- a lot of personal effort if you want to see your family in the next 2 years
- you voluntarily build the ground floor higher
Do you like steps? Meaningless steps to the front door, meaningless steps to the garden
- staircase too small
- staircase too central
Saturday 8:15 pm you want to watch TV in peace
8:30 pm friends of child 1 arrive
8:50 pm child 2 leaves
9:00 pm girlfriend of child 3 arrives
9:05 pm buddy of child 1 gets something from the car
9:30 pm child 3 with girlfriend leaves
9:45 pm child 1 with friends leaves
10:15 pm child 2 comes with friends
10:30 pm child 2 gets drinks from the basement
etc.

Og
2.8 m depth no door fits into the walk-in closet
Trapped bedroom
Is the child only allowed into their room when you’re not working?
Where is the child allowed to use the toilet?
Where are the children from the DG allowed to use the toilet?
Which bathroom do they use?
The one in the basement?

Why is the existing rear building not included in the planning?

I just looked at the floor plans from the first page again. I hope not much has changed since then. I find the area on the ground floor in front of the stairs cramped. You’ve made it clear by now that through traffic on the ground floor doesn’t bother you, but as the sofa is drawn in, it’s hardly possible to get to the stairs, right? Two kids are supposed to be under the roof and one on the same level as your bedroom? What is the dressing area in front of the bathroom for again? Are the kids supposed to run naked through the stairwell to their rooms? With three kids, there will often be visitors, which wouldn’t be that great... Do you want only one shower for five people? I didn’t spot a second one on the ground floor...

Only the basement has changed. I also find the area in front of the stairs very tight. But that’s the largest conceivable sofa. So it will probably be one size smaller and that will be fine too. The dressing room is for the kids’ clothes. I think by age 16 that will have changed, but until then (that’s still 14 years for the youngest) we find this central location good. The kids go to the bathroom in pajamas/underwear and pick up fresh clothes on the way. That’s how it currently works with us, only the kids take the fresh clothes from their rooms. As I said, it hasn’t been used or seen yet but we saw it as a shell and found it good. So far there was still a shower in the basement. If we now fully "un-inhabit" it, the bathroom there will be removed and probably another bathroom with shower will be added in the attic. Then indeed the dressing room won’t make any sense anymore.

What do you want to hear? - Budget won’t be enough - a lot of own work if you want to see your family in the next 2 years - you are voluntarily building the ground floor higher Do you like steps? Pointless steps to the front door, pointless steps to the garden - stairs too small - stairs too central Saturday 20:15 you want to watch TV quietly 20:30 friends of child 1 arrive 20:50 child 2 leaves 21:00 girlfriend of child 3 arrives 21:05 friend of child 1 gets something from the car 21:30 child 3 leaves with girlfriend 21:45 child 1 leaves with friends 22:15 child 2 arrives with friends 22:30 child 2 gets drinks from the basement etc. Og 2.8 m depth no door fits into the dressing room Trapped bedroom Is the child only allowed in their room when you are not working? Where is the child allowed to go to the toilet? Where are the kids from the attic allowed to go to the toilet? Which bathroom do they use? The one in the basement? Why isn’t the existing rear house included in the plan?

I did present the budget and most found it reasonably calculated? Where are still logic flaws? Own work: painting, floors, and outdoor area are fixed with us and probably not unusual. I will look at the tiles. Raising the ground floor is currently the most exciting question for us. If we un-inhabit the basement, we can also put it completely underground. Excavation of soil and more earthworks can quickly erase the financial gain from not having a living basement. NO, we don’t like the stairs. The entrance doesn’t bother us at all but the terrace is obviously annoying. Through traffic in the living room is OK (we hope). We would prefer the stairs on the ground floor to be rotated 90 degrees clockwise, to get a bit more calm but without removing the stairs there. But that doesn’t fit on the other floors. Any ideas? "2.8 m depth no door fits into the dressing room" I don’t understand that? The bedroom is suboptimal. As described. Here, too, we are open to cost-neutral suggestions. Currently I’m actually considering expanding 60-100 cm to the right according to the plan. The bedroom behind the office is the parents’ bedroom. The one for the third child is planned near the bathroom/dressing room (top left of the plan). The plan was for everyone to use the nice bathroom. The toilet is mainly used on the ground floor if mainly spent there. If really two people want to shower at the same time, the basement is used. With un-inhabiting the basement, the idea now is to integrate a second bathroom in the attic. That would probably relax the bathroom/toilet usage a lot, since there would be a toilet on every living floor and on the sleeping floors even showers/bathtubs. EDIT: About the rear house I already wrote that we only take that into planning very prospectively. That’s why now the basement is being un-inhabited. If we ever need something age-appropriate or the kids need more living space, then we can use that instead of building a basement now that is only moderately nice for living.

I still assume that tastes differ and that building a house is also a matter of taste.

However, house planning initially has very little to do with taste and much more with functionality. Later on, you can bring in your personal taste through execution and furnishing. And yes: a house plan should suit you. You yourself write that a lot of things here don’t work. Since changing something once doesn’t get you any further, but rather causes more confusion with each change, you should just plan anew. And if you can’t do that yourself, get an expert involved.

asking if you see things that could then become a problem.

Guest toilet in the living room Living room as a passage room Centrally located staircase allows no privacy Lengths/dimensions not or poorly functioning Hallway upstairs too small Access to the bathroom is a storage room Access to the kitchen is a storage room Access to the master bedroom goes through a room with another function Artificial elevation of the ground floor due to basement necessitates stairs I’ll leave out basement and utility room as well as doors and windows Exterior view with the confusing windows I’ll also leave aside...

The small hallways in the basement, upper floor, and attic are okay for us.

That means: it’s not good, but we tolerate it because we don’t know how to solve it better.

What the problem with the door to the pantry is supposed to be hasn’t been explained to me in a way that I understood yet.

Because it’s nonsense to have to go through a storage room to enter a room. Two doors are also not desirable.

It leads to forced encounters.

Encounters can be nice, but with you, due to lack of traffic space, people tend to stumble over each other. The movement must be stopped. Laundry basket or a big bag will be a challenge upstairs... or in this living-room-nib-tube in front of the hallway. All bottlenecks... Furniture can’t be transported upstairs at all...

The dressing room (as a passage room) in front of the bathroom is our explicit wish. Although we have not had one like this before, we have seen it and think the idea is great with three children.

Small children learn disorder by this and big children have to get out of their rooms?

doesn’t bother us and

That means: it’s not good, but we tolerate it because we don’t know how to solve it better.

is not the prettiest

That means: it’s not good, but we tolerate it because we don’t know how to solve it better.

and due to the floor plan.

Oh! That’s what we’ve been saying all along: the floor plan is absolutely rubbish.

but the terrace is of course rubbish.

...

The bedroom behind the office is the master bedroom.

And when your children want to spread out before exams and study with friends till late at night, then you want to go through there? Well. There you go.

One already itches to make use of the inventory here, spruce it up, and create a beautiful Westgarten. Depending on the quality, I think it would have several advantages: financially, in terms of space, and the distances are not an issue. In the middle of the garden, a pavilion for the sun worshippers...

One already itches to make use of the stock here, to spruce it up

but please not with self-planning