Kitchen & Price - Quick assessment wanted!!

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aero2016

2018-09-23 07:08:03
  • #1
Tastes certainly differ, which is a good thing. However, in this kitchen design there are so many things that are simply impractical that I think it's a shame to spend so much money on it. You can get more sensible designs for the same amount of money. A bar counter is not really suitable for eating. OK, some adults still like it, so be it. But as soon as there are children living in the house, it's just awkward; they can't sit there well. If the seating option were at countertop height, that would be better – and you could then also use the island, for example, really well when baking cookies with children, because everyone can stand around the island and you have a nice working surface. The planned kitchen has what feels like a thousand different heights, which looks totally patchy. And the objection that the lonely tall cabinet looks very strange is really justified. Dishes in wide drawers work great, by the way, but that's just a side note.
 

ypg

2018-09-23 07:22:08
  • #2


I once had it, and at 80 cm width it wasn't nice – I actually had my 8-piece set in there, okay, stoneware... and of course it works... but it's not quick and easy. And a lot of things in the kitchen need to be quick and easy. Even if you cook slowly or for a long time, dishware must be quickly accessible, if necessary with one hand.
 

chand1986

2018-09-23 07:27:34
  • #3

This is due to the following:



With that, everything you could gain as an advantage from the 6-unit grid is not present.

The point is that the 3-drawer units, which are often planned (drawer - 2-drawer pull-out, 3-drawer pull-out in your case) are much less useful than you might think. This height is needed for large bottles (vinegar/oil, water/beer crates) and large pots. Everything else is then stacked into these funny multiple stacks again to use the excess air space, and you have to unstack every time to get to the bottom. At the same time, you have lots of small stuff lying around (in deep pull-outs or in the famous storage can on the countertop) because normal drawers are missing.

It all still works. Ergonomically far from optimal though.

That raises the question about usage behavior. For heavy users of a kitchen like me, it would be a no-go to spend that much money if I had to accept such circumstances. The priorities there seem a bit strange to me – whether I get enough kitchen for the money (which was your question) does not depend only on the cubic meters enclosed by cabinets?
Others will not be bothered by this at all. Only you can know that. Just as only you can know whether the counter attachment is needed. From my experience, that is purely an optical gimmick that annoys more than it helps. You can sit on stools at the countertop as well, but without the counter you can do even more (working on both sides, for example), which the counter prevents. A seating counter at stove and extractor hood is a fail for cooking, especially frying. Unless the island is 1.2m wide.

You live in an open space and the dining table is right around the corner. My crystal ball says: Coffee will rarely if ever be drunk there, eating certainly not. Of course, no guarantee.

As I said, personally I would follow Kerstin’s suggestions because that is structured more sensibly. I would also have fewer 3-drawer units and instead zone 1-1-2-2 drawers in the 6-unit grid. But I would never have set your kitchen budget without thinking it through first – no offense. There is really enough other stuff to do when building a house.

The forum is like the floor plans here – after reaching the Pareto optimum, people keep fine-tuning the last 20% intensely. Legitimate, and it should not be mistaken for the fact that no kitchen ever pleases anyone.
What the kitchen fitter offers as standard is often simply not very ergonomic and sensible once you know what really works.
 

Alex85

2018-09-23 07:28:19
  • #4


We will have a peninsula that would be "counter-suitable." But we won't implement it. I was just informed about that.
A counter disturbs the advantage of the island, working with several people on all sides. It's also not suitable for children, and sitting on bar stools isn't everyone's idea of comfort.

What I really don't understand about counters is the desire for one even though the dining table is just a step away, where it's much nicer to sit.

Storage planning. I asked, "Do we have that?" and got a "Yes, everything goes where it makes sense. Pot by the stove, food by the prep zone, as well as kitchen knives." Sounds reasonable to me so far.
Regarding your sideboard with plates by the dining table, the comment was that it depends on where the food is served. If the pots are carried to the dining table and everyone serves themselves there, it makes sense. If plates are filled by the stove, rather not. Bowls etc. are needed rather by the stove and prep area.

I'm glad I stayed out of it and only pointed out the things important to me (e.g., no SbS, fridge next to a work surface, oven not against the wall, ...).
 

chand1986

2018-09-23 07:32:45
  • #5



*sign*
 

Kekse

2018-09-23 07:55:47
  • #6
I think I understand the basic idea - but I still consider this raised bar to be suboptimal. At our countertop, you will be able to sit (at countertop height), then one can work in the kitchen while the other is there, but not in the way, chatting and maybe drinking a coffee. If there is something to eat that is prepared step by step and tastes best fresh (pancakes, for example), you might also eat it at the island, that's how I imagine it. Whether that's silly will then become apparent.
 

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