Vestaxx window heating - experiences?

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Vestaxx GmbH

2022-10-05 10:46:39
  • #1


CO2 footprint: I already answered that, but gladly again -> 1m² of heating glass requires 3 grams of zinc oxide, which is directly sputtered on in the glass float process. Then 2 grams of silver conductive adhesive and 2m of tinned copper tape. For an average house you need about 15 m². You can calculate it yourself.

And now about water-based systems. Underfloor heating -> 2-3 km of copper or plastic pipes, distribution station with valves, and then the entire heat pump or pellet stove (you should be able to imagine that yourself). We are estimated to be a factor of 10,000 away with our CO2 footprint. And CO2 footprint has nothing to do with later consumption. You can include it, but then I come back with my 15 kWp photovoltaic system and calculate for you how much energy is generated CO2-neutral from the sun within the lifetime. Own goal again!
 

Vestaxx GmbH

2022-10-05 11:08:35
  • #2
The advantage over normal IR heaters is that we operate with a nominal 43-degree heated glass temperature -> best comfort class. IR panels operate in the range of 60 - 120 degrees C. There you or your child can burn your fingertips and can’t stay nearby for long because it becomes uncomfortable (cf. patio heaters). Also, no wall space is consumed. Then maybe also the CO2 footprint - but that is already acceptable with those. If a glass really breaks, a window fitter comes with a new glass (so you don’t have to go anywhere) and is gone again after 15 minutes. That’s how quick a glass replacement goes. And then always the thing with fear: what if we’re not here in 20 years. There are 10 other manufacturers in Europe who make heated glass. I would rather worry whether there will still be spare parts for my heat pump in 20 years and what they will cost. And if the windows are due for replacement again ... after about 20 - 30 years ;)... then you just buy the frames and swap in the glass - that’s called sustainability ;)
 

Vestaxx GmbH

2022-10-05 11:09:44
  • #3
... I have figured that out by now - just not how to display individual text passages yet.
 

RotorMotor

2022-10-05 11:10:27
  • #4
It's a pity, I really hoped that now something concrete would come, but slowly I'm losing interest. Unfortunately, there are always just long texts without real answers, and when it gets precise, then in completely the wrong places. It was about CO2 balances and you only come with quantities of zinc oxide...
 

WilderSueden

2022-10-05 11:31:07
  • #5
Wall space is not an issue for me, the units are not large and there are also versions with pretty pictures, so you don't even notice that there is a heater. I can't say anything about the heat, but there are certainly some that are adjustable and if you hang them a bit higher, no child can reach them. Adults can think for themselves anyway. Does the window fitter Maier from Hintertupfingen know the system and does he handle it? Does he have a heating glass in stock or does he even know where to order it? And what does the window fitter charge for the replacement? Sustainability is all well and good, but changing glass doesn’t exactly sound cheaper than buying completely new windows. And who knows if in 30 years we won’t have quadruple glazing, then replacement certainly won’t be so trivial anymore. Since so many are being installed now, that certainly won’t be a problem. And thanks to the water-bearing system, the form of energy generation is completely irrelevant. Whether oil, gas, wood, heat pump, hydrogen, local/district heating or a hot boy... all this is interchangeable without touching the rest of the heating system.
 

Vestaxx GmbH

2022-10-05 11:31:44
  • #6
That's funny - you don't write anything concrete yourself and when I even provide specific numbers in grams/m² - it's still not enough for you.

Normal common sense should immediately recognize the comparison without CO2 balances - now I'm losing the desire to respond to your comments. If you are so smart, then please publish the CO2 balance of a heat pump. I haven't found anything about it on the internet. But then please be concrete, as you demand from others. We have 3 kg CO2 per m² heating layer. Concrete enough???

And sorry - I always like to learn more - hence the clumsy handling of the threads
 

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