I also find the discussion very exciting. We will probably also belong to the category "outdoor area underestimated" [emoji23]. Or rather, we will have to be satisfied with modeling the terrain, spreading topsoil, and sowing grass. There will still be a fence and a homemade terrace. That's it. At least we have old trees in the garden, which are allowed to remain. At the back end of the garden, a wild hedge will stay so that birds can nest and insects can live there. We just need to figure something out regarding the risk of ticks. Oh yes, we will take about 12,000 euros for the garden. Not more. About half of that will go towards piling up and securing the terrace on it. The modeling of the garden (about 500 sqm) is supposed to cost 1,500 euros and take one day. The final price for the topsoil is still pending. But I don't think that's bad at all. There are different requirements for a garden. For us, it should be a place to play, barbecue, and grow vegetables. Nothing more. And you can also pay attention to the design to keep the price in mind. We never wanted to "completely redesign" a garden, but rather try to make the sloping garden usable by terracing and moving some soil.