Height of the fence to the neighbor and windows in the boundary construction

  • Erstellt am 2019-11-28 09:58:47

Climbee

2019-11-29 08:02:26
  • #1
hampshire, with humor that works for a while, but when you eventually limit yourself because you don't want to deal with terror, humor doesn't help anymore. As I said, this year we hardly sat outside anymore because the desire to do so was already spoiled beforehand. Well, the garden was not yet laid out, but this year we hopefully want to use our then nicely designed outdoor area.

I can put up a fence of 2m (that was also my information, Escroda, but our garden landscaper said 1.80) without permission. However, as I have now learned, it must follow the terrain, which would mean a privacy screen of about 80-90cm at the highest point in our case. But since it is also in the neighbor’s interest to get a privacy screen here (we have talked about this before), I think we will reach an agreement. They should just tell us how much higher a privacy fence would be acceptable to them and, yes, I will get that in writing. If nothing can be achieved, it will just be the permitted 2m high and that’s that.

Joedreck, I don’t have to provoke them any further, but in the future we will just lead my normal life, so also with open windows and outside, and they will have to accept that. The quiet approach we have practiced so far has brought nothing. Maybe they just need a clear statement. We are basically non-existent neighbors otherwise, we leave for work very early and mostly go to bed around 10 p.m. because we get up early. Honestly, if such a neighbor happened to be a bit louder one evening, I wouldn’t get upset about it at all, that can happen to anyone. But even that wasn’t us on that day, we watched TV AND opened the terrace door. Already too much for them.

boxandroof: A lawyer is my last resort, I’m not really eager to do that. But if this continues, there will at least be a letter from a lawyer (e.g. requesting that the window in the garage be adapted to legal requirements within a reasonable timeframe). I now believe that kindness and consideration don’t get you far with her, she needs a stop sign in front of her nose. Maybe it will get better once she gets a strong message. On the other hand, they have nothing on us. We have followed all the regulations, we don’t have loud parties, we don’t play loud music, we just talk and laugh and also sometimes outside and/or with open windows. But I don’t think anyone can do anything about that, neither the police nor a lawyer.

My hope is that the situation will relax with the privacy screen and a laid garden, which will also absorb some sound thanks to the plants. But that will start at the earliest in March next year and it will take time until it is finished, and when I now calculate how many times I still have to endure the shrieking fury until then, I get dizzy...
 

haydee

2019-11-29 08:28:55
  • #2
Then place pots with taller growing greenery behind the privacy screen. That way, it is also quickly removed if she wants to do something. Maybe she is just the Else Kling of your street, then nothing will happen.

It is exhausting. Friends of ours had such neighbors. At every little noise, you listened to see if the fury was coming up the stairs or calling the police again.
 

Tassimat

2019-11-29 08:40:19
  • #3
Don't let the evil witch sense your tension and anger. Ignore all the crap from her and still greet her kindly. That annoys such people the most. As stupid as it is, you have to find a way that is bearable for you because you can't re-educate the woman.

A tree will be planted in front of the garage window, if necessary in a pot. Just enough so that minimal light comes in. At the border, only the allowed fence, but the ugly side facing the neighbors. Everything that goes towards the shared fence is pure waste of time because all agreements become void when it comes to cost coverage. You have to advance the money and won't see a cent back afterward.

As for the police, I'm undecided. Maybe always call them yourself first whenever the woman freaks out, so that if the tables turn and the woman wants to call the police, the police already know that she is a fury.
 

Tassimat

2019-11-29 08:44:38
  • #4
Oh yes: Maybe the nightly storm hammering can be prevented with video surveillance ([Atrappe] might suffice). Or bright light with motion detector.
 

halmi

2019-11-29 08:47:07
  • #5
Write a letter and demand that she cease this harassment such as baseless nighttime ringing of the doorbell and also issue a ban from the house. I wouldn't even bother talking to the lady anymore, it doesn't help anyway, you already have enough examples. No one can forbid you from watching TV in your house or talking on your terrace. This whole thing is simply an outrageous impertinence from the lady.
 

Climbee

2019-11-29 09:05:31
  • #6
The fence is at our expense, that is not up for debate. It’s purely about the height; despite everything, we will inquire whether we should exceed the allowed 2m or not. If yes, I’ll have both of them (attached to the fury is also a husband, who is neither seen nor heard) sign the plan.

Oh yes, what I forgot: for about a month now they have set up wildlife cameras in their garden, which also monitor our property. Such a camera has a viewing angle of about 170° and they are positioned in such a way that our property is also surveilled (quite extensively). We have so far left it uncommented (what does she expect to see besides a cat taking a dump?). We wanted to casually ask over the fence what exactly they are monitoring and what they have seen so far (and wait to see the reaction). So much for video surveillance... Now I’m considering whether I should forbid it. According to data protection law, this is definitely illegal.

If it really comes to the point that we issue a ban from the property, the idea of installing a surveillance camera would be quite relevant. Because otherwise, how should I prove that she disregarded my ban?

But somehow I still hope it doesn’t escalate that much.
 

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