House and floor plan planning - First architect's plan is available

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Nixwill2

2022-04-13 14:11:49
  • #1
That sounds very complicated... I think I’ll get back in touch in a few months right after the selection, then I can report what they told me and possibly change it again through you :). For me, it’s a prefab house provider like with Pinkiponk, I don’t think I can really have much say in the trades, except that the terrace is actually a DIY job :confused:.
 

Tolentino

2022-04-13 14:14:35
  • #2
And do you already know what kind of terrace you want? So wooden terrace or stone slabs or tiles or...?
 

Nixwill2

2022-04-13 14:17:17
  • #3
In our heads, both of us are set on wood, but in a year (da sollte das Haus stehen) that might change again :rolleyes:. Inside, tile was always planned for the floors, and now it's definitely parquet :).

Do you have to know that right away?
 

11ant

2022-04-13 14:32:10
  • #4
I think the elements are indeed floor-to-ceiling; the missing magic word would have been "threshold-free." This entails, in my understanding (I was the manufacturer of the stuff, complaints were a matter for the boss, and I wouldn’t dare to work threshold-free with the same fittings), different fittings—in other words, classic pivot hinges instead of tilt-and-turn fittings. For this reason, I also see the necessity of the choice decision regarding which elements you want threshold-free and which ones you want to be tiltable. With lift-and-slide doors, you can’t just "take the bottom guide rail lightly," so embedding it into the screed would presumably be necessary if "threshold-free" is desired. The flooring—at least in my suggestion in the "mouth area" of the door as a slatted floor—can also cover the bird guard channel (which then doesn’t need a cover grate).
 

Tolentino

2022-04-13 14:33:42
  • #5
Not necessary, but makes things a lot easier.
With wood, you can work with a substructure that basically adapts to the terrain. For example, I have about 40 cm difference in height between the indoor floor and the outside terrain. I don’t want steps going from inside to the terrace, so I build the substructure in such a way that the terrace boards end up approximately at indoor floor level. This is a bit more complicated and expensive in terrace construction, but then I can save myself special sealing measures because the ground outside is basically at floor slab level. For me, a splash protection strip and possibly a dimpled membrane on the facade are enough.
But that also has to do with my soil, which drains quite well. So the risk of standing water is not very high for me.
If you wanted a stone terrace, the corresponding substructure would have to be set much higher. So then you would have at least soil (or the substructure) directly next to the house along the length of the terrace. Here, more measures have to be taken to protect the plaster and masonry from standing water. Also, the risk that heavy rainwater pushes directly against the window is much higher because it can nicely flow in at the same level over the terrace.
You would then need the gutter or even drainage. The sealing of the window element to the outside also has to be done much more extensively. With my variant, basically the minimal requirement of driving rain tightness is enough.
Although I still want to seal it with liquid plastic. Mutterkiste and Vorsichtsporzellan and all that.
 

Nixwill2

2022-04-13 14:44:37
  • #6
phew, that actually sounds very professional, I think it will take quite a bit until I really understand it!

I think I will get back to this in a relevant thread as soon as it becomes necessary for me. Until then, I am sure I will have made progress regarding the ground as well. But I am almost certain it will be wood, that fits best since we want to have the terrace run around two sides of the house and because of the slope it could then look a bit like a jetty, which we would really like. However, it also depends on many factors such as the costs for filling the slope, the ground floor is currently almost completely suspended, and the basement also still needs to be filled in... Discussions with the civil and earthworks contractors are currently ongoing...

Nevertheless, thanks already for the food for thought and information!
 

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