Floor plan single-family house, approx. 200 sqm without basement - assessment

And no, I did not write that any plan is better!!!!!

But I think you could also tell those who want to help me if anything stands out to you. Or directly refer to individual drafts. Something like, no, this or that is rather worse now... Not that I copy something wrong from there.

But I find that the draft from kbt09 and mine are already very similar. I could also make the living room narrower.

I also see it the same way with the 6x6m rooms. Let's drop the topic of square or not. A 4m wide rectangular living room is certainly better.

You like the 339 dining area and also the 384 for the lounge area. These were exactly the same in my draft, so I’ll translate that as: also good!

And somehow you weigh every word on a gold scale to throw it in my face. The thing with the sink was just an example. I can't always explain everything in great detail.
For a lifetime, every single look out the window is nicer looking at your front garden and possibly the side street than at a dead dark 3m boundary strip.
That’s why we decided against such a variant and why the kitchen should be in the west.

The pantry should only be in the west if it has to be. But in our case it has to be. Kitchen "must" be in the west, pantry directly next to the kitchen, ergo pantry in the west. In our opinion, that fits. Currently we have a small storage room, which we use as a pantry and beverage storage area. It’s in the west and sufficiently cool. Those are our direct experiences.

Many people have a front door with a carport in front of it. And then they also have a second small entrance, which for example is a utility room. On the other side, it then goes into the house or the kitchen.
For us, it's exactly the same, only you come from the garage. What’s so unusual about that? Except that we do want to store jackets and shoes there.

You can interpret everything in either a negative or positive way. Who represents which here is clear.

Pretty much the same facets are either bad for both of us or good for both, I think.
For example, I’d have to open the kitchen door to get into the pantry in your draft. I would dislike that.
On the other hand, as mentioned, I’m taking another look at the staircase arrangement.
If it’s designed open at the bottom, the hallway immediately looks even more spacious.

Positive about the variant: Bathroom on the ground floor can move left, pantry can move left, more space between kitchen island and chairs.
In your kitchen, the chairs are drawn in their extended state, but then I always have the disadvantage of having to squeeze tightly around them. In my design, there is only the tight spot between the right side of the kitchen island and the back of the chair. And only when someone is sitting there.

When guests are there, you can set up/serve everything on the kitchen island (covered if left out). People just have to get up, go through the sliding door, and then they can get their food there. That’s a point we appreciate about the kitchen island. By the way, that works for both of our layouts, don’t misunderstand.

All in all, I’ve played through dozens of scenarios and can manage with the floor plan as it is. At least better than with your suggestions. Although it could certainly be improved. But it just hasn’t been here yet.

Property from the south (not yet at the southern border):

You just don't want to understand. When creating a floor plan, you can't just say this detail or this room isn't good, fiddle with it, and then everything is fine. There are always effects on the adjoining rooms.

And, do you then prefer to look at the slat wall from the sofa's resting point? .. Just plant it nicely, you'll have to do that anyway.

And regarding the room depth ... you still plan sideboards somewhere, which also limit the seating depth.

For example, I wouldn't plan a pantry anymore, but instead store these things in the passage room from the garage and save myself a room that creates awkward corners. By the way, why should there be a small kitchenette in this wardrobe/passage room? I just read that.

And about the kitchen .. in my plan, it is a full island, so there are always 2 ways around it. And those are the kinds of things I meant. You don't pay attention to the details.

And, how was it with your architect friend?

yes, 2 times around too tight is = better than 1 time around too tight?

No offense, but I had to get that out. If the 90cm-110cm around it is ok, then in my original version it should have been ok as well, or it actually should have been. These are all things I mean. It’s all in the eye of the beholder. From the sofa, there is no window facing north, so I can't look at the wooden fence there either! When I look south, I look out at the entire garden. People can twist everything I say negatively, but my thoughts often go in a different direction...

I keep saying it: with me, people criticize that I have to go through x doors to get to the kitchen. Others do the same, then it should be just as bad. And there are plenty of other examples, too. Just with their respective points of view. You find nuances better in your design that I find better in mine, etc.

I find the staircase as in your design almost annoying again. Because: when I look at the upper floor, I’ve used several more square meters there through the hallway. That roughly offsets my passage for a central exit to the balcony again. So from my point of view, more benefit for the same space consumption.

I didn’t know the architect at all beforehand. She is the sister of another colleague. I sent her the development plan and everything else necessary, also our plans. She then made a counterproposal and refined it in a loop. But I noticed that due to the distance (Cologne to Wolfsburg) it made no sense to bring it to completion with her. The quiet hope was to get a jaw-dropping design from her. That wasn’t the case, but I really liked the idea with the staircase and the entrance in the west (see my blue designs, which you also dismissed) in her design. The rest was very similar.

We then agreed on how to proceed and I paid her for her hours.

It is a last attempt because I also find this discussion here very pointless.

For example, you planned a peninsula with about 260 cm of space to the right. But a table with a corner bench is supposed to go there. That means the 260 cm first accommodate the table with bench; with the chairs pushed in, there are actually just under 100 cm of passage to the peninsula. But only if they are properly pushed in.

I am planning an island that also serves as seating, where the chairs stand at the top right and the main passage on the left is without chairs and about 105 cm wide, and that in a kitchen that is a good 4 sqm smaller.

But that’s not what it’s about anyway.

You say the kitchen is at the top of the plan, and you don’t want to look at the wooden fence in the east when working in the kitchen. I mention that you look there when sitting on the sofa, then you write you don’t see the wooden fence in the north... do you notice it?