Floor plan single-family house, approx. 200 sqm without basement - assessment

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kbt09

2015-01-27 19:03:11
  • #1
This really is not my living and especially lifestyle. Two entrance areas, etc.

But one thing I have to say .. I don't know where you keep bumping into the living room wall with the chairs when standing up in this variant:


Unlike you, I always depict seating places at tables with chairs in sitting position. Just take a look at your kitchen seating area, for example.

With a corridor depth of 208 cm, no entrance door will hit coats in the wardrobe.

And passageways of 80 to 90 cm in the area of a storage room are absolutely sufficient for taking items from the storage shelves.

You just convert an insane amount of space for building services, storage rooms, pantry, and utility room. In the last developer version alone that is around 42 sqm within the built-up shell. In my last variant it was about 27 sqm, and that is already a lot.

Your partition options then provide that only the ground floor resident still gets access through the garage into the house.

But, as willWohnen already wrote, it will be your house. You can take note of arguments, decide, and you have to live in it. At least you can say there was enough "headwind" and you had to rethink everything.
 

kbt09

2015-01-27 19:06:12
  • #2
Oh yes ... in case of separation of OG/EG, the guest room, which then becomes the bedroom, should also be designed in such a way that a large double bed and at least 3 to 4 meters of wardrobe space can be comfortably accommodated. Otherwise, all the thoughts regarding spatial separation make no sense.
 

Slammer0909

2015-01-27 19:28:26
  • #3
Hello,

208m from my point of view is too tight. The jackets should hang diagonally, so they need about 65cm of space. Then the door opens with 1m swing area. Okay, that leaves 0.5m, I agree with you.

But if you look at it holistically... the designs are not that drastically different. About the same room sizes, just arranged a bit differently. I put more into the kitchen, that is you, but otherwise...

I don’t understand your explanations regarding the ancillary rooms. For you, 27sqm without corridor. In the version from the developer then including corridor? Or how do you get 42sqm and 27sqm?

The separation or after a separation of [EG/OG] the children have to go through the front door and cannot/must not go through the garage, that is correct. Or if it is even [“fremdvermietet”] then of course that person should not go through the garage. A 2.5m wardrobe would fit into the bedroom downstairs. That has to be enough with age, alternatively the kids’ stuff is then out and I have “emergency wardrobes” in the utility room. In your bedroom on the [EG] I also couldn’t hang a TV on the wall... I have paid attention to that too.

My explanation about the chairs: When I sit with several people in the living room around the coffee table, you place the dining chairs (or others) around the coffee table. And there the space between the living room wall/TV HiFi wall and the coffee table at 4.48m is too small for me. That was expressed unclearly, sorry.
 

kbt09

2015-01-27 20:13:18
  • #4
Developer version:
Storage room ground floor: 20 sqm
Pantry ground floor: 4.2 sqm
Utility room upper floor: 13 sqm
Technical room upper floor: 4.8 sqm
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= 42 sqm

My version:
Technical/storage ground floor: 18.6 sqm
Pantry ground floor: 3.4 sqm
Utility room upper floor: 6.2 sqm
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= 28.2 sqm

All without corridors

.......
Bedroom on the ground floor .. if even 250 cm wardrobe is enough for you in old age ... then in my version the wardrobe can easily be reduced from 4 to 3 m and there is space for a TV ... or the TV is integrated into the wardrobe door and 400 cm of wardrobe remains.

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And again different lifestyle, if I had so many guests that your large 3.5 m U-sofa does not fit, then I would sit with these guests at the table. That is why there is always enough space so that a table can be easily extended. Because with so many guests you will also put some food/drinks out and that can be enjoyed much more comfortably at the table, which everyone can reach, than on the sofa with some central coffee table.
 

Slammer0909

2015-01-27 20:19:49
  • #5
Yes, logically you also sit at the table. But with my version/vision, you CAN also sit around the coffee table. Or at both at the same time...or or or.

We would like to have a laundry room upstairs where laundry can be washed and processed. Therefore, the room upstairs is very much desired and the 13sqm is exactly the right size for us and not too big.

Instead of a basement, we have planned: a cloakroom on the ground floor; that is, a large utility room for others. And upstairs then the laundry room separately, also with at least 10sqm, so that everything fits comfortably, ironing board, drying rack etc.
That your idea of the upper floor doesn’t match ours anyway is also clear. That’s why I haven’t talked about it anymore.
I just don’t think it’s good when these rooms are extra small, rather they should be extra large!

Keyword views & lifestyle. The house is big enough for all rooms to still have a usable size. I don’t find 20sqm kitchen to be small, for example. The living room is really borderline small, that’s true.

You’re right about the closet. 2.5m fits there and the TV in the corner, okay.

I was already somewhere between 12.5x12m. I’m thinking about adopting this dimension again. This time 50cm more in width. That will do the bedroom downstairs and the kitchen/seating area good.

But actually 12x12 should be sufficiently large.
 

Slammer0909

2015-01-27 20:33:31
  • #6
I just realized that the laundry room from your design on the upper floor would completely disappear under the slope. We have a maximum ceiling height of 4.5m and a roof pitch of 30°. Knee walls are 1.1m.
 

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