Floor plan single-family house, approx. 200 sqm without basement - assessment

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Slammer0909

2015-02-04 19:11:27
  • #1
Whoops...
I don’t even know where to start.

Incredible what you’ve done there! Thanks already.
I somehow find it really impressive how you simply combined garage and house into one element. This living room could almost be a little smaller.
On the one hand, it’s almost annoying that you can see me directly from the street at the dining table, but that would probably work with pleated blinds.

Really a cool alternative that I need to take a close look at and think about. You put a lot of thought into it and you know me better now, which I think is really nice.

One thing I want to point out or that I noticed: I’m afraid the sloped ceiling above the party room won’t work like that, or it would need to extend at least 1.5m inward, like in the view from the BU architect.
You know, that 2m line (see at the very south) must be somewhere.
Because I have an eaves height of 4.5m and therefore, in a normal house, I already have a knee wall of about 1.1m and then a slope of 30° (possibly 35° feasible) on top of that.
So how should it be higher in the party room now? Or if it works there without deep slopes, then I don’t understand why it doesn’t work the whole time in the normal house... (?)

Am I making a mistake in my thinking?

A second thing: Please include the second staircase and a small bathroom in the garage. That would really be great and important. I have already scribbled something on your draft about this.
The seating area in the kitchen could even be set up around the corner, then adjust the countertop of the cooking island accordingly. Although the general wish was rather to have a seating area at table height and then a kind of bar with raised height at the cooking island. That would now naturally be lost, but clearly not everything can work.
Somehow the 15 sqm kitchen feels “too small” to me. Currently, I also have exactly 15 sqm with approximately 3.5 x 4.4m. It’s designed as an L shape and there is room for a dining table, yes. But when I build new, I had dreamed of more... :-(

And generally, if I just look at the floor plan. It really looks like a huge wide Frisian house with integrated garage.
So why not just extend the ridge completely like above the party room in that case? The children would have large windows to the south.
However, then the sloped roof would run annoyingly over the entire length, meaning the bedroom, dressing room etc... the same on the west side. But it would look very nice from the street view, I could imagine.

Man, oh man, you really came up with something...
But can you please address my questions?

Thanks and best regards



EDIT: Oh, and one more thing, theoretically I can stretch the bathroom on the ground floor to be long and narrow so that the staircase can fit completely straight into the hallway or, if necessary, with a bottom turn, right? It would then come out differently upstairs, but it should be doable.

The balcony is now exactly facing the street, but it’s not very busy, so the laundry will just have to be hung there in summer.
 

kbt09

2015-02-04 19:27:10
  • #2
What you outlined there doesn’t work. I played around with the floor plan for a long time ... and you simply can’t move walls around. The straightness of the hallway is lost, the living room gets an entrance tunnel that is 110 cm wide but 150 cm long, and so on. And why do you absolutely want the sofa in that position? It is much nicer on the east wall and also offers the unobtrusive possibility of eastern light. In winter, no low-lying south sun disturbs the view of the screen.

View of the dining area from the street ... the property will be planted ... I like the large sun-filled room with the 3 big window areas. And the west sliding door is basically also the exit to the west part of the terrace, where in summer you’ll probably grill in the evenings to enjoy the last rays of sunshine.

The second staircase costs the bicycle parking space. And I really see NO added benefit for the party room, quite the opposite, cost increase due to the 2nd staircase, 2nd doorbell, etc. The way through the first staircase to the party room really doesn’t bother at all in private life. And then you simply put a door opener upstairs and there is no problem at all.

Why the WC in the garage?

I pulled the roof over the party room out to the left as a dormer. 20° roof pitch and, I believe, 220 cm knee wall. That this works out so well is simply because the other roof is much wider and steeper at 30°.
What you had in mind I also briefly considered. But I didn’t have the energy to try it out. Roof design is tricky and I’m not very good at it because I don’t understand enough about it. And ... the problem is that the sloping ceilings then end up in the upper floor rooms where they are really not usable at all.
 

Slammer0909

2015-02-04 19:35:57
  • #3
I do see the added benefit though. I will regularly meet with my people there for Carrera evenings. And then people can just come and go without disturbing anyone. If later the children want to meet there more often, they could use it as well. The bathroom is then just for parties. When the kids turn 18 there, I don’t have to have them all in my guest bathroom in the evening. In general, I find this type of separation better for that case. When we normally celebrate birthdays etc. in the house, everyone is inside. When we have parties, it can be nicely separated so that not everyone has to walk through the house again. Similar to a basement. With a party basement (in the basement), there would certainly also be a direct toilet. Additionally, you can wash your hands there after gardening or quickly use the bathroom, so double the use. I just think it won’t work so well without the stairs. Ok, so the party room might be very tight with 4.5m ceiling height above ground level / street surface after all. Because the ground floor already has a ceiling height of about 2.5m, then another 2.2 on top, and unfortunately I’m over it. We actually wanted to build a city villa so we wouldn’t have sloped ceilings. Single-storey isn’t a problem either, you can create that through recesses etc. But the eaves height is the problem. Or rather, if it should work like that, why shouldn’t I set the knee wall everywhere to 1.8m and the roof to 20°? Unfortunately, there is the problem with the ceiling height. Ok, simply moving walls won’t work, the passage corridor to the living room, you’re right, would be bad because it’s too long. I will try your idea in my program and vary it a bit. I can’t get roofs to work with it at all. But I really wouldn’t mind the idea of the overly wide Friesengasse.
 

kbt09

2015-02-04 20:03:17
  • #4
But you don’t just leave the side door open either. People have to ring the bell ... and where is the disturbance of privacy when using this one staircase?

WC for the garden .. ok ... then explain which storage space you really need for what in the garage workshop.

Oh yes, the eaves height ... now two more views, dormer at the party room changed. And 2 sections.

 

tobia

2015-02-08 22:10:23
  • #5
I didn't read everything. I would be interested to know: What is this supposed to cost? We were here with a standard off-the-shelf house, 160sqm (basement, ground floor, attic) without floors, garage, garden, parking spaces already over 300,000€.
 

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