Floor plan single-family house, approx. 200 sqm without basement - assessment

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kaho674

2015-02-03 07:49:33
  • #1
Oh, now I know what you mean! The cabinets! Because of the kitchen island. Yes, take out the cabinets and put in a kitchen island. Let’s see what’s possible.
 

ypg

2015-02-03 08:08:07
  • #2
The thread does not have dozens of posts for nothing, because Slammer gradually came with his specifications only after the first 70 posts.
So trallala I can also put up a few floor plans sometimes, but I think it is counterproductive here, because it is difficult to have a good discussion with Slammer in a forum setting.
I would integrate the board fence into the planning, for example, even if it would mean tearing down this fence. It somehow makes no sense to present the house without windows on two sides and to leave many sqm of the plot, the eastern strip, out of consideration...
An architect has to get involved, also regarding the costs... I think a professional can build a different basis for Slammer to get him somewhat out of his stuck position.
 

kaho674

2015-02-03 08:33:23
  • #3
Sorry

Ok, I was just keeping an eye on the list.

Sounds pretty frustrated. For me, the floor plan thing is fun. If it doesn’t fit, we keep figuring it out. If I don’t feel like it anymore, I just stop. Slammer just has his ideas, that’s not a problem. He has to live there.

Unfortunately, I couldn’t follow. Two sides windowless? Garage is clear, but even there I have windows. And the side rooms just look onto the board wall. Not so dramatic in a storage room, I think. The main thing is you can air out sometimes. Is that board wall actually his? I thought it belonged to the neighbor. Otherwise, get rid of it and plant nice bushes.

Yes, well I’d check the costs first. Every square meter costs at least around €1500. The party room at least around €1200 and the garage won’t end up cheaper either. Especially not with all the side rooms.
So when I see the starting floor plan, I roughly estimate (unfortunately I can’t see all the numbers): 200m² garage + party room x 1200 euros = €240k + living wing: 240m² x at least 1500 euros = €360k which together makes about €600k. And I probably estimated on the low side. That’s okay if it fits the plan. Does it?
 

ypg

2015-02-03 08:55:02
  • #4
I can understand you, I also enjoy it, especially the challenges when the framework conditions are not easy.

Nevertheless: if you have followed the thread, you also get to know something about Slammer’s character. Add to that a long, narrow plot .... and then without the experience of an architect. An architect already has a much better overview of how to approach a problem. As a client, you should of course not forget your own requirements for the house, but you should also not be too fixated on the absolute position of a room in the west or east. Someone might now come here or a good architect with a perfect design of a house, but since TE Slammer is fixated on the kitchen being located in the west, that design will be worse than his own.
As long as he doesn’t go to an architect, it will be a clumsily planned house, a corner here, a projection there, then a passage again because nothing fits.

You can only draw what you know yourself – and what does a layperson know???

Also, a statement from a builder estimating costs at 280,000 (I don’t know if that’s with or without garage) is, in my opinion, a completely wrong building block in the making of this house.

Therefore, I believe that further advice will not steer Slammer in the right direction.

I would look forward to seeing and discussing Slammer’s architect plan here soon (a new thread is also possible ).

Regards, Yvonne
 

kbt09

2015-02-03 09:06:10
  • #5
Yvonne, I totally agree with you.

... I know, I also enjoy puzzling out floor plans. But, because of the long story, I recommended the entire thread to you. The extra fun is when you can ignite the OP with an idea. And for that, you really have to take the specifications into account so that the OP can recognize themselves in it. And for the omitted specifications, one should always provide their own reasoning for why they did that. Because only then can it potentially offer the OP new ways of thinking. However, it must be noted that Slammer is quite rigid in many points. For example, I consider all the storage spaces to be very oversized, since the rooms are not small either and one should rather create cleverly placed needed storage space there. However, I do find a place for 4 bicycles, for the lawnmower, and for storing garden furniture to be practical.
Regarding the costs, I see it as you do... this will be an expensive project, especially since the passage to the garage is absolutely necessary and living space above it.
 

ypg

2015-02-03 09:38:16
  • #6


That's how it is, kbt!

Living space and garage: either more expensive or the architect has a completely different (more cost-effective) way to integrate a party room.
 

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