Single-family house - approx. 150 sqm - without basement - Who has ideas? Thanks

The fact is, I am allowed to build there.... I have received it in writing, just forget the reasoning.

Well then scan it, delete the names, and then you can read it yourself.

So you are one who wants to make fun of others at their expense...

No, look at what he does professionally: keeping planning law under his pillow

You can tell them directly... I can connect you with our building authority.

I think he will already call on Monday himself to find out the real core. What you are saying simply cannot be believed by anyone who knows the subject: namely recently, more or less, that the development plan is not yet valid and therefore the zoning is not either, and that in the meantime a mixture of discretion and neighbor approval would be applied as a fallback until the gentleman happens to drop a new development plan for a residential area at this spot from the sky (my crystal ball says, if that happens, it would be on February 31).

...in essence, that the development plan is not yet valid and therefore the zoning is also not valid, and that in the meantime a mixture of discretion and neighbor approval is applied as an interim solution,...

I also think that some things are strange here. But I have to admit that it was almost the same with us: land expected to be developed but still without a development plan – construction in the outer area was allowed at discretion. However, not by a phone call to the office and the neighbor had nothing to do with it.

Well then just scan it, delete the names, and then anyone can read it for themselves.


No, look what he does for a living: planning law under his pillow


I think he will call on his own accord on Monday to find out the real core. What you are saying simply can't be believed by anyone with knowledge: namely that the development plan is not yet valid and therefore the area classification isn’t either, and that in the meantime a mixture of discretion and neighbor approval would be applied as a fallback until the gentleman randomly throws down a new development plan for a residential area at this spot from the sky (my crystal ball says that if it happens, it would be on February 31).

Maybe I couldn't explain well, I don't know much about building law.

Practically speaking....

You want to buy a plot of land, ask for a building permit, and get a positive response.....would you then try everything to question why you even got an approval and insist on a rejection ?!


Accept it.....or if you don't want to say anything about the preliminary draft, then you can talk via pm, I don't want any spam in my thread.

I also think that some things are strange here. But regarding the above text, I have to admit that it was almost the same with us: agricultural land with development expectations but no development plan yet – construction in the outer area was permitted at discretion. However, not by phone call to the office and the neighbor had nothing to do with it.

Was there personally and had a conversation with the head

- verbally confirmed
- also in writing (for the location of the old property)
- and nothing should speak against the new project either (building further north)

if the neighbor theoretically does not want it, then I am surely allowed to build at the old location!!!

if you don't want to say anything about the preliminary draft, then you can talk via pm, I don't want any spam in my thread.

Katja has already written about the preliminary draft: the ground floor is hard to assess without dimensions; the upper floor seems to have been attempted to be divided fairly (or whatever guideline may have been used), but unfortunately not a goal, not even a near miss.

I am not familiar with building law.

Then don’t defame warnings given here as "spam." You are in a forum where advice is given free of charge – in the case of Escroda even at chief physician level. Normally, one thanks for that in a different tone.

Purely practical....

... a bailiff can stand in front of your new door. He rings you out and tells you to stay out, then serves you the notice of prohibition of use and seals the entrances. At least if the "GE" has ever become legally binding. The building authority cannot simply disregard this. Where a mayor distorts the law, a district administrator (or an administrative court) comes and restores it.

Or the development plan is not legally binding, then the previous plan or §34 applies. However, this only knows an insertion obligation – no neighbor approval and no existing outlines (which would rather fit the outer area, but on the other hand not the change of use).

With further tomfoolery, this was my last advice on the matter.

Katja has already written about the preliminary draft: the ground floor is unmeasured and hard to assess; the upper floor seems to have been attempted to be divided fairly (or whatever guideline may have been), but unfortunately no goal, not even a near miss.


Then don’t defame as "spam" when warnings are given here. You are in a forum where advice is given for free – in the case of Escroda, still at chief physician level. Usually, one thanks for that in a different tone.


... a bailiff could stand at your new door. He rings you out and says you shall remain there, then serves you the cease of use and seals the access. At least if the "GE" has ever become legally binding. The building authority cannot simply act disobediently. Where a mayor twists the law, a district administrator (or an administrative court) comes and restores it.


Or the development plan is not legally binding, then the previous one or §34 applies. However, it only knows an integration requirement – no neighbor consent and no existing outlines (those would rather fit an outer area, but again not the change of use).


With further petty tricks, that was my last advice on the matter.

I can only make sense of the first part. Thanks for that.

And regarding your warning, there is a friendly warning (see kaho and ypg) and an amusing/unfriendly/negatively charged warning... with you it is the latter.

Content-wise, some of what you say may be true, but if you analyze your comments (also in other threads), it looks as if you are waiting for someone to write something that might be questionable... and then say: ah, I have been waiting for that, the satisfaction is already waiting....

I wish you good luck too... I don’t want to get more personal.

Ps: I wonder what will happen with the other 15 residential buildings... nothing has happened for 20 years.

Ps2: serious question, who is admin/mod etc. here? Usually, there are certain standard rules on a forum.