List of incidental construction costs. More expensive "on the builder's side"?

The surveyor works, as already mentioned, according to a fee schedule. This is based on the size of the property or the area to be surveyed and on the land value. I paid 1300 for the LP for 1400sqm. In addition, the planning of the building is included in the LP, rough staking out, fine staking out, and surveying. Total about 2300€. Land Brandenburg

Years ago, it was about the same for me. Unfortunately, in NRW (where I live) there has been a new fee schedule since March 1st.

The one not called HOAI.

Okay, it really has nothing to do with the HOAI, but fine, that doesn’t change anything.

This is a blunt attempt to circumvent the fee schedule.

Unfortunately not, because the official site plans must be billed according to the fee schedule. Costs: 720 EUR basic fee + 1750 EUR fee for the house + 750 EUR fee per garage – of course net. (can be found in the cost regulations for official surveying and official property valuation in North Rhine-Westphalia (Surveying and Valuation Cost Regulations - VermWertKostONRW)

Moreover, I repeat myself, there are services that are not covered by the fee schedule and are therefore freely negotiable. For example, the rough/fine staking, whereas building surveying is covered by the fee schedule.

Correct! They are supposedly required to price them based on the above cost regulations so that the rates of the cost regulations cannot be circumvented this way. At least, this was the justification. (According to the cost forecast, this amount is also "based on the HOAI".) However, there are no major differences in staking, so I won’t start asking other surveyors just for a few euros when this one demonstrably works well and reliably (and quickly).

@Escroda ?

I did not understand why the seven-month-old thread was picked up again. What is it specifically about? The increased surveying costs due to the new cost regulations for official surveying in NRW? Is there a nationwide list where the values are always kept up to date?

Probably not, but since the costs listed here are at least significantly (four-digit) too low in NRW, I wanted to point that out. It is a pinned topic, so age should not matter.

It is a pinned topic, so age should not matter.

Yes, sorry. One (in this case me) should not start reading on page 22.

Hello everyone,

after the discussion in thread about our construction financing and after receiving many good tips, I would like to present our construction costs so far. I found it incredibly helpful at the beginning of our project to see what items to expect and roughly what costs to anticipate. Below are some current figures from autumn 2020. Maybe it will help one or the other interested reader as well.

For context: The following information comes without guarantee :) and is of course relative and depends on the construction site. We are building a single-family house with an architect, flat roof, 193 sqm, garage for one car, and to the KfW40+ standard. Most items are backed by quotes, others already paid, and some are estimates. The first three tables are certainly relatively generally valid, as they are independent of the budget. The tables regarding the house naturally depend on the house and the chosen standard.

Here are the items for our plot:

[TH]Item Land Purchase[/TH] [TH]Costs (rounded)[/TH]

Status inquiry biotope as the plot was heavily overgrown being a neglected garden	102 €
Notary purchase contract	1,350 €
Land register fees for land charge pre-notation	215 €
Broker commission including deposit	11,400 €
Fee negative certificate municipality xxx	45 €
Purchase price plot 884 sqm	170,000 €
Share surveying plot for subdivision	1,560 €
Real estate transfer tax (6.5% purchase price)	11,060 €

We bought the rearmost piece of a subdivided plot, which was not only almost 75 meters away from the street but also a complete jungle. Additionally, we had to participate in the demolition costs of a house on subdivision plot 1 as per contract. The costs for development (here we partly shared costs with our neighbor), clearing the plot, and a construction road (it should be noted that we have to keep part of the road as a fire department parking area - this part, however, is on the neighbor's plot) are as follows:

[TH]Item Development and Construction Preparation[/TH] [TH]Costs (rounded)[/TH]

Cadastral office	220 €
Soil survey	790 €
Share demolition of a single-family house with basement, shed, and garage (1/3)	10,000 €
Surveyor creation of site plan	1,690 €
Notary	230 €
Real estate transfer tax additional payment on surveying and demolition costs	754 €
Basic fee land charge	415 €
Fees for encumbrances for two plots in front of us	800 €
Connection fees electricity from street to plot (75 meters) without earthworks	3,250 €
Sewage-water channels, empty conduits for electricity, telecom share (2/3 for about 70 meters) as well as share of construction road made of natural gravel	9,560 €
Fees associations, house number, etc.	300 €
Connection fees water	1,500 €
Connection fees sewage	2,400 €
Clearing of plot and tree cutting	3,800 €
Surveyor surveying	1,400 €
Notary registration of land charge	4,000 € cost estimate

For the house planning, the following items have been incurred so far, with the architect's costs not being representative due to acquaintance:

[TH]Item House Planning[/TH] [TH]Costs (rounded)[/TH]

Architect service phases 1-4	8,500 €
Energy consultant	1,120 €
Statics	7,500 €
Fees building application	1,500 €
Architect costs service phases 4-5	22,000 €

Now it’s finally starting. Below are costs for the house, although some estimates are still included.

[TH]Item House Construction Building[/TH] [TH]Costs (rounded)[/TH]

Batter board, cistern	5,000 €
Earthworks and base pipes	8,000 €
Base slab + strip foundations	26,000 €
Concrete and steel works including concrete pedestal stairs	45,000 €
Wall and masonry works	43,000 €
External cladding and plaster layer	40,000 €
Room-side plaster layers Q2-Q3 including white exposed plaster inside in sqm	22,500 €
Sealing and screed	5,000 €
Flat roof construction including 20 cm insulation + frame cladding aluminum or zinc	30,000 €
Dry construction	2,500 € cost estimate
Room-side paint inside in sqm	10,000 € cost estimate
Stoneware tiles parents' and children's bathroom including walls + guest WC, about 55 sqm	6,000 €
Exposed screed utility room, pantry, kitchen, hallway, guest WC, about 50 sqm	5,000 €
Parquet, about 120 sqm	15,000 € cost estimate based on initial offers
15 x windows (aluminum or wood-aluminum) with blinds and south-facing with venetian blinds, partly special sizes, floor level, etc.	55,000 €
Front door	5,000 €
Garage door	4,000 €
2 x sliding doors + 2 x security doors garage and pantry	5,000 €
9 x solid wood interior doors	6,000 €

I am currently still waiting for two quotes for the items with asterisks. It can certainly be cheaper. However, the BAFA subsidy must also be factored in, so it will be more moderate again.

[TH]Item House Construction Technology[/TH] [TH]Costs (rounded)[/TH]

House connection telecom, electricity, water and sewage from plot boundary to house	5,300 € cost estimate
Pipes hot and cold water in m *	7,100 €
Air heat pump with 300 L hot water storage including installation (model not final yet, probably one from Viessmann or Wolf) *	16,000 € (BAFA eligible)
Underfloor heating in sqm, with insulation without heated screed *	11,000 €
Central ventilation system *	15,400 € (BAFA eligible)
Water softening system *	2,000 €
Sanitary fixtures (to be purchased separately)	14,000 € cost estimate
Photovoltaic 9.6 kWp + battery 11 kWh including installation	22,000 €
Electrical installation, cables, sub-distributors, sockets, lightning protection, no/almost no automation	18,000 €
Lighting planner and lighting	10,000 €

For kitchen and garden, we have each reserved about 20k. But there is nothing concrete yet. These are our numbers so far.

If you have any questions, feel free to let me know. Otherwise, thanks to this forum, which has helped me in many ways.