Price increase - Our construction company wants 21.4% more

With upscale features and

We could really open a new thread for this, but just this much: in the 3500 (and those are really cheapest lines... so rather 4000 and up) not everything you listed is included. Basement yes, but even that is almost not worth counting anymore... what are you supposed to do with a 3m2 basement? :rolleyes: Garage, parking space etc. also comes on top of that. Easily 25,000€ for an underground parking space.

Just like with the house. A masonry finished garage for 2 cars (1 car hardly makes sense) with floor slab, roof, plaster or clinker facade, windows, sectional door, flooring, possibly insulation and heating starts at a minimum of 35k and can, with clinker, insulation, and a pitched roof, easily cost 65k. I roughly calculated ours. (we did a lot ourselves, but just 80m2 ceramic clinker with joints already costs nearly 10k, Overall about 35k for 55m2

BTT Please!!

3 more words......

Phew, it’s quite aggressive to read here sometimes :confused: Just because someone asked what their house costs, others ( ) don’t have to feel attacked because they can’t calculate the value of their house.

But if I don’t know what my basement costs (which is not necessarily unreasonable with the general contractor), then the total price WITH basement obviously distorts the price per m² WITHOUT basement extremely.

You can ask the general contractor about the basement. Otherwise, it should actually be listed separately for transparency, just like extra technology and other extras.

The typical price per m² refers to everything directly connected to the house. So also the kitchen,

Kitchen is handled externally, the notary also deducts furniture when buying/selling a house.

But you can also discuss this endlessly. Difficult topic

It’s not that difficult if you stick to context when naming numbers and making comparisons.

So: If I don’t know exactly what the basement costs, I can’t possibly make this calculation.

Just because it’s your problem at the moment doesn’t make it pointless. Basement is always external. A house is counted as a house without basement, without kitchen, and according to the common energy saving ordinance. And when you post your value, then with the legend without incidental building costs, garages extra, energy saving ordinance designation, clinker or plaster, and simple or more sophisticated architecture/execution – preferably with location naming (federal state)

A basement can also have an incredibly wide range! Depending on sealing / waterproof concrete / fittings etc.

m² living area / €, and if with basement, then specify

It’s simply nonsense if I want to calculate my m² price and then have to assume an average value for my entire basement :D

Yes, I’m still waiting for :D

I don’t want that either –

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I really know what an identical job in the identical industry can offer on average.

Identical… there are no identical jobs in the free market. Even the north-south structure distorts your average.

price-wise but in the Düsseldorf, Hamburg area,

Hamburg is not in the Düsseldorf price range. I wouldn’t trust tables in the newspaper. Those are mostly outdated numbers.

We could really open a new thread for this,

There already is one, but it’s apparently not well received because no one understands that you can’t just post your euro value randomly without rules (without/with basement), like it was done ;)

Hamburg is not in the price range of Düsseldorf. I wouldn’t trust tables in the newspaper. Those are usually outdated figures.

I didn’t mean that either.... I wanted to use two random cities as examples to rather express that it is insanely expensive here :D more expensive than Frankfurt, Düsseldorf, etc.... but not quite like Hamburg, though close behind.

A semi-detached house is currently being offered in our region (West Palatinate) by the developer. I have deducted incidental costs and land. This results in €2300 per sqm. Without landscaping, of course.

How can you deduct that from a developer’s offer?

That prices could have increased by 20% over a period of about 2 years is sufficiently plausible

But not all at once overnight before the selection appointment.

But not all at once in the night before the sample selection.

Basically, has now been really "duped". She is just relieved that it is now "only" a 15% price increase, which makes it seem like a good deal to her. So better strike quickly before it gets more expensive again... Just like in Emil and the Detectives. There, a woman wants to buy bread and the baker says she only gets three rolls for the money. "Now take them quickly before they get even more expensive!" (there is rampant inflation)