Well, that's a relief. By the way, the sofa thing was someone else. Is it just me, or are you in a bad mood right now, somehow looking for a fight, and that at Christmas?
No, I like to discuss controversial topics as well, but it’s by no means meant negatively, small talk is just not my thing. If it came across differently, then here is my honest SORRY!
@pagoni2020 and @Hausbau0815, can you continue your banter somewhere else? This is @WilderSueden’s thread and so far I haven’t had the impression that he is done here yet.
is probably still lounging under the Christmas tree; if it deviates too much thematically for him/her as the "thread owner," he/she will say so.
We’re already past page 30 in this thread precisely because it’s not only about key figures, technology, consumption values, etc. The forum is very technology-focused and in my opinion too little oriented towards real individual, human needs and feel-good topics. I can hardly read any more competing key figures and technical values, despite all their justification. From my point of view, the often rather elaborate discussions that some find excessive are often more rewarding than the 75th consumption value.
I read from about bath days or thermal baths just as much as about all kinds of fundamental reflections on the how of house building. Therefore, I find broad-ranging discussions about the pros and cons of individual lifestyles and views helpful. He/she will say stop if it doesn’t fit.
Of course, you currently can also easily sell a house without a bathtub, just like a terraced middle house with a towel garden at a busy motorway feeder or the dreadful 1950s settlement house – because the market is totally on your side and as a seller you can be sure to easily get rid of even stuff like that (in an acceptable location).
I know times when you could sell or rent almost nothing. The value of my own property has almost doubled within 15 years, which was not foreseeable. Luckily, nobody wanted to buy it before! Unfortunately, you can now sell almost any loveless junk, which hopefully will change again at some point.
When I’m as old as you, I don’t expect it to still be like that. Then the birth-weak cohorts will be at the typical house-buying age and the balance of power will be different than today. Then I would simply like to be able to offer a house that appeals to as broad a target group as possible.
You can count on that, I know those and similar thought models from the past, too. It might be true or not, but I don’t organize my life around it. A year ago it was said that due to Corona the real estate market would collapse, and the Euro along with it... and now? Maybe it will still come... who knows.
I planned my housing project so that I can possibly offer it to a broader market in 30-50 years. I have always designed my apartments/houses somewhat specially in my opinion (not more expensively) and got good buyers for them. But that was only after I divided my larger house into three individually designed apartments. There were plenty of apartments with bathtubs at the same time, but my apartments were bought within a few days at a very good price. There is a diverse clientele, and I believe that too much "standard" or cookie-cutter stuff rather has a negative effect. But that has nothing to do with the silly bathtub discussion; however, I can always sell something "good" (sorry ). At least that’s my opinion AND experience.
This attitude has only developed through my own experiences; before, I would have thought like you, so I can understand your position but live it differently.
With all due respect for personal development in one’s own four walls, anyone who loses sight of the quick resale value of the property acts, in my opinion, negligently and harms themselves financially.
The feel-good factor/individuality have top priority for me, otherwise I wouldn’t build myself. Don’t worry, of course I try very much to keep an eye on the "threatening" uncertainties of our lives. I just often don’t understand young builders so well who at 30 already want to plan the house also for their own old age and even beyond their own life. That is a bit too much for me and has too little of WHAT makes me/us feel good today and in the next years.
A quick resale of my self-built house is actually not on my agenda; we probably see that differently. I build a house that I like and believe that various buyers will find it special at some point; maybe not the broad target group, but not anyway, because we are building a house for two.