New single-family house in southern Germany

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Schimi1791

2020-12-28 13:49:32
  • #1
Another one of those "things" I wouldn't think about when buying a house. In a new build, something like this will certainly (again) fall victim to the cutting knife. Clear, straight lines are a must! https://www.hausbau-forum.de/ratgeber/hausbau-trends.48/erker-vor-und-nachteile.73/ "A bay window can significantly enlarge the livable space. Bay windows are very popular for adding some very distinctive embellishments to the facade. The rooms are flooded with more light. Provided there is an appropriate size, it is certainly possible to convert the bay window into a seating area or a creative corner (writing, painting). The bay window offers comfort and aesthetics (inside and outside)." :D However, bay windows are still being installed today.
 

ypg

2020-12-28 14:12:32
  • #2

But we are currently in a new build thread – you have the tendency to mix everything up here and not address the thread itself :cool:

Regarding your "quote"


Take another look at the basement #242 and compare your quote... Incidentally, the disadvantages from the report and the original intended purpose are still much longer than the "flooding of light through the bay window" ;)
 

pagoni2020

2020-12-28 14:57:44
  • #3

Ok, is that a compliment for you now? :D Basically a "Späti" in the house... uh, sorry, of course in the concrete basement! Sure, you can justify anything with that, even a tank in the front yard. I am the child of refugees and therefore this way of thinking is not foreign to me, but even my parents eventually dropped it and preferred to enjoy the apartment with a roof terrace and everything above ground. They were forced to be in the basement often enough. They enjoyed the development and moved with the times.

Did you go up to the attic and read in a yellowed magazine from the Settlers’ Association from the 60s? :eek: As a former oriel builder (built in ‘90) I can as a sadist rather tell you about disadvantages or don’t really know of any real advantages. “Striking embellishments” were then as now attempted by sticking some zit on nice and boring buildings or placing a Corinthian plastic column in the front yard to forcibly achieve some individuality or style (nowadays lifestyle). Like so many things, wanted but not achieved. It’s also not just a matter of taste because real style or classical architecture has developed and endured over centuries/thousands of years. To even remotely associate a square concrete basement corner as a stylistic tool requires more than whimsical imagination, you call it a “striking embellishment”, uffff.

No, they’ve since been banned by the architects’ guild... luckily.

Since the budget is no insignificant factor in house building, clean lines already make sense for that reason; also in furnishing. Although... there is a website "Front Yards of Horror" or something like that, maybe there should also be “Oriel Window Design of Horror.”

Nope, just think of Art Nouveau alone... likewise, there are many very good architects, including modern ones, who work with shapes and colors. But it’s not enough to just bend something around a corner to create a design. Unfortunately, it’s often tried. I can’t do it but I also don’t claim to and rather lean on styles that didn’t come about after the third beer at the construction site; I’d rather do nothing than something ugly.
Go to, for example, Bilbao to the Guggenheim Museum, you can’t miss it. It hardly has any straight lines like you think, and it is still beautiful. But it doesn’t have an oriel, at least as far as I have seen.
 

Schimi1791

2020-12-28 15:08:08
  • #4

No! My first source was this forum, where the pros and cons of a bay window are discussed at length. However, the bay window in its current form should probably not be confused with the bay window of days gone by.
For example, there are 60 different bay window ideas on Pinterest in 2020, and on every "home builder website," show homes with bay windows - in whatever form - can be found, as Google shows :)


Mix up? I responded to the picture in post 242, where a bay window is described as "old-fashioned." Even in this forum, bay windows are not called old-fashioned, as the quote in post 247 is supposed to show, which comes from this forum. Rest see above.
 

WilderSueden

2020-12-28 15:12:28
  • #5
I remember that I also addressed the topics of muscle relaxation and bathing in general. But I think that got lost in the discussion about the resale value. Otherwise, I see relatively few compelling reasons to install a bathtub that we have not needed so far and without which we will certainly manage in the future. To me, the subject of a bathtub sounds somewhat dogmatic for some people, just like the idea that the washing machine absolutely must not be in the bathroom. It has been so far, and I haven't missed anything in that regard. Of course, a dedicated laundry room would be nice, but we are planning a house with ~130sqm and nowadays without a basement. Extra rooms for the washing machine and dirty laundry or an unused bathtub really take up quite a bit of living space.
 

pagoni2020

2020-12-28 15:23:35
  • #6
Oh... it's on the "Internet".... then it must be true. Of course, you can also design "bay windows" and everything else nicely. Just as there are nice flat roofs, nice fire ponds, and nice cellars (e.g. wine cellars in Spain/France, usually with vaults instead of bay windows :D ), yes, you can... but unfortunately, besides Pinterest, there is also visible reality; Pinterest remains virtual, whereas the truth is brutally visible at certain corners of some housing estates, unfortunately. Okay, if the model home center and even Google say so, then I concede aesthetically. That's true, although... if you previously had a plan with 130 sqm living area PLUS a basement and now you omit the basement, then perhaps a few square meters are still available if the basement costs are eliminated. I always think it's good when someone does it the way they need/want it now and in the foreseeable future. From that point of view, a bathtub would make sense to me. But I also know people who say they don't need this or that and then just don't have it. I find that just as good.
 

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