New single-family house in southern Germany

By the way, I just find the two bay windows in the basement simply brilliant.

Yes, there they are, the 80s ;)

For example, I wouldn’t want to pay for a room for adult parties either. These ALWAYS take place in the living area, where I like to be the most and/or on the terrace. Party basements, whether for young or old, seem outdated to me and don’t fit into today’s world anymore. As I said: in MY way of thinking and living.

Party basements had their heyday in the 70s-80s (!?), and nowadays I don’t know anyone who still uses theirs.

Exactly. The 80s. My parents already fled a party in the 90s because it was taking place in the basement. I thought I had the house to myself, and then people are already coming back at 9 p.m. :eek:
And I fondly remember children's parties where spin the bottle played a role – in the party basement.
And ten years ago I had to sit in the party basement on New Year’s Eve… God, that was terrible. Life passes you by, and you don’t notice a thing :D
Never again!

I wouldn’t need such rooms at all

Nobody needs them. Just because grandma had a storage basement and the pantry was so cool (for a child that was great, especially coming from a rented apartment), you don’t need one yourself if you’re not growing vegetables.
The importance of parties still exists, but young people these days are more likely to be creative in the kitchen, camp outside, roast bread on an open fire, demonstrate on Fridays, or lounge in front of the TV.
Of course, if you’re creating space-consuming hobbies for several children, such rooms might make sense, I think. But “parties” can well be held together with me on a practical ground-floor level in a cozy group.

And with the most frequently mentioned financial budget limits here, I keep wondering what is considered “normal” despite tight budgets or what one doesn’t want to give up. I would rather invest every euro in great living space.

Yes, wasn’t there the one who would rather forgo the house than build without a basement?

If I had 50,000€ left over when building the house, everything would have gone into the ground floor equipment. I wouldn’t hide a single euro underground. And if I had two or three more children, they would have gotten a play level under the roof with daylight. But old furniture? That goes straight to the small e.

At my first cousin once removed's place, the pool table has its own living room. But her husband loves billiards and plays very often and with pleasure. Therefore, she doesn’t want it in the basement either. Parties were held in the pergola with an open fireplace. Summer and winter. We just had to clean the restroom the next day.

The discussion about basement or not is pointless. The original poster is planning quite modestly for forum standards. I’d like to know what could cost 3000 euros per square meter there.

The discussion about basement or not is pointless. The original poster is planning quite modestly for a forum standard. I’d really like to know what is supposed to cost 3000 euros per sqm.

I would like to know that too. Well, Weberhaus has an expensive reputation and since their standard already starts at 2500€ and then things like heat pumps and underfloor heating come on top, that is at least understandable to me. On top of that, they still pass on some things to the builder that wouldn’t have to be (e.g. complete leveling layer, plastering the base plate). With the local general contractor, it’s still a mystery to me how the price is calculated. Of course, a design with many windows plays a role, and the upper floor is very high as well. But even if you reduce that again to a real 1.5-story house, the all-round carefree package should actually be included for the price to be right.
The only ones where we are not that expensive so far are Town & Country. They are just over 2000€, but without floors, painting, and photovoltaics. With a few add-ons, we will probably end up at about ~2500€ per sqm.

My first cousin once removed has a billiard table in its own living room. But her husband loves billiards and plays very often and gladly. That’s why she doesn’t want it in the basement.

Great idea......

We just had to clean the bathroom the next day.

Just as great when the teens are allowed to do it themselves

....They are just over €2000, however without floors, painting, and photovoltaic systems.

At least the photovoltaic system should, in my opinion, be offered externally. Otherwise, you usually pay significantly more.

Depends. At Weberhaus, 20 TE is included (9.7 kWp and 10 kWh storage), that seems fair and I wouldn't have to worry about synchronizing it. Schwörerhaus wanted almost the same price for half. At Town & Country, the salesperson advised me to get it myself and only take the empty conduit. In this case, the term consultant even applies to a salesperson.